Sue

“He is asking when one PERSON hypotasso’s to another it is always one directional. The maccabee reference is not an example of this. It is a yielding to the ‘rights’ (observances etc) not to the Jews themselves.”

Clearly, in Eph. 5:21 and in Clement it is NOT one directional. No exegete in history suggested that Eph. 5:21 was one directional until Grudem. Not the most traditional and patriarchal. This notion that “one another” means unidirectional submission is a unique interpretation made popular by complementarians and completely unsupported by any Greek grammarian, or any historic commentary.

I do not see why a woman should bow to an exegesis that came into style after she was born. Why do men think that women should be at the whim of every exegetical folly that men can make up. I am insulted by Grudem’s exegesis.

Don’t you realise that believing that “one another” really means the women submit to men, is something that a kindergarten child would not accept.

I do feel that anyone who promotes this kind of exegesis is insulting the intelligence of the person they are talking to. =