Barbara Klika

Greetings all;
I have been reading through some of the posts and this series of comments today; still looking forward to seeing the DVD in its entirety.

May I add a few points here? I am very appreciative of the depth of study and intricate linguistic explanations that have been presented here. I intend to adopt them!
It isn’t surprising, really, when we see that so many people do refuse to consider the whole counsel of YHWH, from the beginning; and so often try to make the beginning fit the end, rather than beginning AT the beginning!

I would like to add just a few thoughts from the picture I have seen as I have been studying from a Hebraic perspective now these past nearly 12 years. I have Scriptural references for all but won’t take time in this maiden voyage here to include them. I believe I am seeing a good spirit of comradeship here in this blog so am feeling inclined to take a risk, and share this with you. If I am out of line, please forgive the intrusion! I really am not practiced in blogging and posting threads as yet. It is just so encouraging to find this material and the similarity to our concerns here!

In studying with a thematic or midrashic perspective and including some insights from the sod level as well as paleo Hebrew word “pictures” this picture has been emerging for me. How does it “fit” from your participants perspective?

Our omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God wanted relationship with someone “other.” He NEEDS nothing but desired relationship! and no helper was found suitable for Him.
Through the Word/Messiah He spoke and things that were unseen were formed into things seen.

He created by taking something of Himself, the One, and making Two: heaven and earth; Shemayim and mayim. The earth swam in the waters and is truly designed exactly as human beings would need it to be for survival. In that protected place, He further created a smaller protected place, the land of Eden; and within that place a Garden of Eden; Gan Eden “Shielded Delights”

He created greater and lesser lights on the 4th day, sun to rule by day and moon to rule by night. Just as heaven and earth are often taken as a husband/wife metaphor so are sun and moon. BUT as I have seen commented on here, the misunderstanding is that a human male is the sun; where what we would say here is that Yeshua is the Sun which all mankind, male and female, need to reflect.
He is all/both masculine and feminine. (and so much more… but not place to go into here! 🙂 )
We are separated out into male and female…thus far in time!
He shines. We reflect.

As Cheryl has pointed out, ezer knegdo is the term translated as helpmeet, and since our Elohim refers to Himself by this term, there can be no understanding of any inferiority here! Praise Him!

Four rivers/waters surrounded this safe almost womblike? place in which mankind was placed. Mankind; male and female He created them in His image. and so exactly in His image that His dilemma is played out again; there was no companion/helper found suitable for him.

So, our Abba took something of the mankind/Adam from his side to make the one into two…and then told them right away that the two were to become one. We see immediate, intermediate and final fullfillments of this prophetic instruction!

Hebrew word for male includes functional picture of: initiation, or penetration.
Hebrew word for female includes functional picture of: responder or encompasser.
May I say, complimentary strengths and form and function each designed in their own types of strengths to be used for one anothers well being….in the most egalitarian way… to try to use the terminology I am seeing here.

We see that neither male or female correctly responded and carried out their form and function fully. They yielded to the evil one’s crafty inference that they were really already blind; and in accepting its assessment, they became blind, as well as poor and naked; much like the Laodicean church is warned about.

I now see this as much more than the picture of an individual man and woman in marriage, but rather a theme of all of creation working through all the messy details of coming to maturity and to be ready for love; fullness, completeness; maturity in Messiah, so that men and women, together in echad as the restoration of all things progresses, are finally able to come together as one in preparation for the ultimate re-union with our Elohim through His Son, Yeshua Messiah.

I am seeing that this picture portrays our God as a parent birthing people for companionship, who will need to go through individuation and conflict in order to eventually come back to Him in complete voluntary surrender to Him, at the Marriage Feast of the Lamb. The same picture emerges in the metaphor of the Good Shepherd caring for His flock; His companions whom He is nurturing and disciplining; iron sharpening iron.

At that wondrous time, we will have no more need for sun and moon as we will be in His Lamb Light! The strong, pure, spotless Bride. Those two, sun and moon, and mankind and Messiah will become one in the ultimate restoration!

Well, that is a little bit of the metaphor I have been shown. I hope it is a helpful contribution to this lengthy and sometimes difficult debate. May Messiah be raised up in it all!