Dave

Thanks for the replies Mark. I will not bother replying beyond this. I have not got time, nor the desire. I am sorry to not agree with you, but I do not see you pursuing truth at all. You are the person who would not accept dictionary definitions that clearly show submission does not always dictate hierarchy. You created your own definition. Now you are adding your own interpretation and understanding of conditional clauses that go well beyond what the text books say. You say that my two examples are not valid because of the order of the main clause and the conditional clause. So? My texts do not say this makes any difference. Should I just accept that you say it does? Some of your replies make no effort to understand what I am saying. I am wasting my time.
All the best
Dave