Mark

Dave,

You said
“I do not think anyone has suggested that Paul has said that the husband is needed to bring the wife out of deception. Just hypothetically Mark, IF you were decieved, you might be able to get your act together all by yourself, but sometimes God uses other people in our lives to help us realise our deception and change.

I do not recall anyone saying the deception was the responsibility of the husband. I am not sure where this is all coming from.”

Let me answer with Cheryl’s own words…
“The last thing to point out where Paul has made a clear condition is that “they” are to work through these conditions for “she will be saved…if they…” (note Cheryl’s words…Paul has made a clear condition is that they are to work through these conditions…)

“The need for a helper to bring one to faith in Christ is never more crucial than in the issue of deception, for the truth of the matter is that the deceived rarely walk away on their own. The lure of deception is so strong that without help, the trap of the lie will keep the deceived in bondage. The one who knows the truth but who has been silent in correcting the error must now step up to the plate to be a major factor in encouraging the woman who is in sin. His encouragement will help her to step away from the deception and into the light of the truth.”

So the husband has been silent according to Cheryl and must now step up to the plate. In fact, here is a clear example of how verse 15 is simply ignored and replaced by the above quote. So ‘they’ are not to ‘remain in faith, love, holiness and self control’ but “he must step up from being silent, help her out of deception and into the light! Any correlation to the actual text????