Waneta Dawn

“What you are actually proposing is that this woman’s salvation is conditional on what both her and her husband believe and do. This is not inline with other clear biblical teaching and therefore must be rejected. It undermines the gospel and salvation and the promise of nothing separating us from God. It undermines the very heart of the gospel.”

Mark # 87 “What has remaining in faith got to do with coming out of deception? What has love, sanctification and self control got to do with coming out of the deception?”

Craig’s illustration #109 Great illustration!

I am coming to this discussion rather belatedly, but thought I’d add my 2 cents worth anyway.
First, I am so sorry you had that robbery to deal with, Cheryl, but happy you got alot of the money back.

Next, I think Craig’s illustration, if Mark would simply have paid attention to it, would have solved his reservations.

I’d like to go further on that illustration. If the wife’s view against eating fruits and veggies was so strong she managed to convince her husband, neither of them would end up with good health.

In the same way, if the deceived woman convinced her husband that she was right and they both followed the route of deception, neither of them would be saved.

The husband’s influence–whether he remains a Christian, or yields to deception–is very important for his wife’s salvation. As long as he stands firm, she has a much better chance at salvation, especially if she, with her false view, is silenced, and she can hear the truth in church, too. If he folds, both of them will likely go at breakneck speed down the path to hell, and neither of them will likely be open to the truth.

While it is true that either one of them could be brought to the faith by the testemony and teaching of someone else, once they both believe a lie, it is that much more reinforced which makes it more likely neither of them would come to the truth.