Craig

Hi everyone who is there,
I haven’t actually had any conversations with anyone who actually holds the really genuine traditional “easily deceived” position. Webb does in his exegesis, but as I say, he believes it was only applicable in Ephesus at the time Paul wrote to Timothy due to local reasons, not due to women’s basic nature as is the traditional interpretation.
I know some who hold the more recently invented, updated version of the “easily deceived” position. This is the “women are more nice and friendly than men and so they won’t be tough enough on false teachers and so shouldn’t be elders” position.
There are many different comp positions, but if I ask a comp why they would believe that the way they understand v11,12 is normative for today, or why they believe he is giving a universal command, one of their responses will be that Paul basis his appeal on creation.
They seem to believe that an appeal to Adam and Eve immediately makes something normative, transcultural, universal, applicable for everyone, for all time in just the way it is stated. Webb disagrees with this, as does R.T. France in his book “Women in the Church’s ministry”. I have some thoughts, but I was wondering if anyone else would like to share what they think. Does an appeal to Adam and Eve ensure that something is normative for today?