Craig

I am still thinking about whether 1 Tim 2:11-15 has to be understood as a husband/wife private thing or whether there is any way Paul could have been referring to matters going on in the wider church.
In the example I gave @77, say the woman (let’s call her Betty) had actually led no one astray yet but was trying to with 20 different men, don’t you think Paul could still have expressed “I do not permit Betty to authentein a man”? I can agree that he could also have said “I do not permit Betty to authentein men”, but both sound possible to me.
If Paul still had this idea in his mind of deceived Betty endeavouring to enrich many men in their spiritual experience through sex with her, could he not also have expressed it as “But she will be saved… if they (meaning all the men she was trying to influence, or possibly her and the men)?
The sexual element seems to work in well with Adam and Eve as well, with deceived Eve offering Adam something supposedly to enhance his spirituality or godliness, but ends in death. The men in Ephesus must not be like Adam, but rather, by continuing in faith, love, holiness with propriety can be involved in her salvation.
Could this Artemis problem also be related to such things as
1 prayers for a quiet life 2:1,2 (in contrast to the riots of Acts 19)
2 Jesus is the one mediator v5 in contrast to the temple priestesses
3 Anger, fighting, disputing v8 ?