Cheryl

Hi Metacrock,
I would love to post on your board but right now I am up to my ears in alligators. We are working on a DVD on the Trinity and we are in the midst of setting up a new corporation in the US and so there is major work involved in that.

Regarding my interpretation on 1 Timothy 2:15, this is an interpretation that answers why the verse in in the passage and how it connects to both chapters one and two.

I have researched other interpretations of 1 Timothy 2:15 and there are holes and problems with every other interpretation.

For example you write:

“It is not saying that child birth is the means of her salvation, but rather that it is an ordeal through which her election to the Kingdom will reamin secure.”

This is a problem in a couple of areas. The first problem is that nowhere is a woman’s salvation in question in scripture. The second problem is that “the childbirth” is a noun and not a verb so if we are going to pay attention to the inspired words, we wouldn’t get an action out of what is clearly a noun. The third problem is that the interpretation about a woman’s salvation being secure through the child birth process has nothing to do with the stopping of “a woman” from teaching. Paul specifically says “for” “and” and “but” in verses 13-15 connecting these verses all together with verses 11 & 12. You also said:

“Now Paul is not saying that women must earn God’s protection through holy living. But what else is going to say? He’s trying to quealch a movment toward immorality in the chruch, and immoral living does open us up to spirtual dangers. He’s just saying that if women stay in a close walk with the Lord they will be protected from the spirutal dangers.”

The problem with this interpretation is that it does not connect together with verse 12 and this interpretation makes the verse stand out like a sore thumb. Also Paul’s concern in 1 Timothy 1 is not immorality but false teaching and false teachers. If you say that women staying in a close walk with the Lord, they will be protected from the spiritual dangers of giving birth, this doesn’t make sense since there are no spiritual dangers in giving birth. I have also never seen any documentation that shows that giving birth was attached to a loss of salvation so this doesn’t appear plausible along with the other problems in the verse.

If you haven’t seen my DVD set yet, you will want to get a copy. The argument is set out step by step on the entire passage if you can find any holes in my argument once you have seen the entire argument, I would welcome you to show them to me.