Cheryl

Corrie (#86 & #88),

Good posts! I too am reading from the bottom up today as I have been so preoccupied I have missed a lot. I like what you said.

“The fact remains that husbands are NEVER likened to God. They are told to be like Christ in their sacrificial love for their wives. Period. They are not told to be like Christ in His resurrection or in His glorious return. They are told to be like Him in His love. Period. Husbands are NOT Christ to their wife nor do they represent Christ to their wives. They are not mediators, prophets, priests or kings. The Bible tells us we are ALL a royal priesthood, husbands are never singled out as priests/mediators for their wife.”

Amen, sister!! My dear complementarian sister in Christ, you are just like us! You see things clearly in scripture just as we do. I also especially liked this:

“I do not believe that Christ is eternally subordinate to the Father. He was temporally subordinate in His incarnate state in order to do the work He came to do. Remember, Christ was crucified from the foundation of the World. Before Adam and Eve were created, Christ’s death, burial and resurrection were already planned. Christ is the Word who became flesh. All things were made through the Word/Christ. Christ is Creator. Christ is God. How can God be subordinate to God?”

This is especially encouraging to me because I was beginning to think that much of church had gone mad. The downgrading of Jesus to an eternally subordinate position is especially troubling to an apologist who has worked most of my ministry life helping Jehovah’s Witnesses come to know the true Jesus Christ, not the subordinated inferior “a god” of the Watchtower. Now we are a kinship to this same type of thinking in the church! Complementarians who say that Jesus as the eternal Word before he became man did not even want to strive to be equal with God in authority and position have lost their way. Their attempt to downgrade Jesus because they want to support the downgrading of women is beyond comprehension.

“One thing that I do know is that Christ is God in the flesh. Through Christ all things were made. God the Father and God the Son are ALWAYS and EVER in agreement. They are ONE and it would be impossible for one to go against the other or even have a thought that would be different from the other.”

Amen!!! How is it possible for men who say they represent the evangelical church to now teach us that Jesus is subordinated in will as if he disagrees with the Father? Other than the incarnation where Jesus subordinated himself to become human and to take on the human will, Jesus has never been in any other position but One in will with the Father. Anyone denying that is denying the revelation of scripture.

Lastly I will quote you here:

“Not true when it comes to two sinful, imperfect, fallible human beings. Husbands are not God. Wives are not Christ. And patriarchalists really must stop taking analogies to this length because it borders, imho, on idolatry. Who would have the hutzpah to compare themselves to God?”

Oh my gosh, I really like you and what you have said! This truth was so clearly worded. My sister, are you sure you are a complementarian? I join with you and hope there are many more out there like you. It is time that the church pulls back the protective cover off of the self-made abusive hierarchists so everyone can see who they really are. This is not true Christianity. I see Jesus’ words in Matthew 24 come to life:

Mat 24:48 ”But if that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is not coming for a long time,’
Mat 24:49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards;
Mat 24:50 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know,
Mat 24:51 and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.