Corrie

“Grudem’s reading is that woman’s original sin is usurping male authority and man’s original sin was rejecting God’s authority.”

That is bunk. The scripture says no such thing. She did NOT usurp male authority at all. She disobeyed God, not Adam. Where does Scripture tell us that Eve violently overtook Adam’s authority and went against him? I thought the scripture simply says that Adam was with her in the garden and she was deceived? Doesn’t sound like usurpation at all. We can speculate until the cows come home but I wonder how the patriarchalists rectify their speculation while at the same time denigrating other speculation? John MacArthur goes so far as to say that he KNOWS why Adam did what he did and even though he wasn’t there, he didn’t have to be to KNOW why Adam ate the fruit. It was because Adam wanted to be noble and not let Eve die on her own. Yeah right!

“Thus, Jesus died to reconcile men (males), and women are reconciled through their husband. This is a Mormon teaching, not orthodox Christian teaching.”

Exactly. A lot of this is Mormon-like teaching.