Cheryl Schatz

Corrie,

The clip on youtube was very good and what I would like to know is how Ware handles the fact that Jesus specifically tells His disciples to ask Him anything and it will be done for them.

Ware skirts the clear biblical command of Jesus to ask Him anything and “He” will be the one who answers the prayers, by saying that only the apostles are allowed to have this relationship with Jesus in prayer.  He says that since they walked with Jesus on the earth and knew him in the flesh, then they alone are given the privilege of praying to Jesus.  We, on the other hand, according to Ware, are to pray only to the Father and therefore our relationship is with the Father, but through the Son, who is responsible for taking the prayers to the Father.  It is very much like JW theology.

I too have been concerned about the CBMW teaching that the unique position of submission of wives will be continued in heaven.  Yet at the same time their position is the logical consequence of their faulty theology.  It is not biblical but it logically follows their error.  I would like to do an article on this subject in the near future as it troubles me a lot.  The strong stand of several CBMW speakers who attach salvation to a “correct” understanding of “manhood” and “womanhood” also concerns me very much.  They have moved from a restrictive position on women to a very divisive position in the church.  I hope that those who are sitting on the fence on this issue are now able to clearly see the danger in teaching that God has created a spiritual difference between men and women that gives men unlimited access to their gifts from God for the use of the entire body of Christ, while restricting God’s gifts given through women forcing some women to be prejudiced against their brothers in Christ.  When we do not stand up against this forced prejudice and speak the truth of God with love, the body of Christ is hurt and our united witness before the world is also hurt.

To me, the Trinity is their Trojan Horse and this article is proof that their thoughts on Christ’s subordination go much, much deeper than the earthly marital relationship.

I agree with you.  While this appears to be the agenda of some men, I also see a completely opposite agenda by Satan.  For the evil one I see the eternal subordination of women to be the Trojan horse that has enabled the Trinity to be dismantled and distorted.  Who would have ever allowed Jesus to be seen as having an eternal unequal authority and as one who is being ruled over by another member of the Trinity, except for the Trojan horse of the submission of women? The desire to keep women spiritually underneath men has allowed the defenses to be lowered of many people who then allowed in the attacks leveled against Jesus.  When you bring Jesus down, you can then lift men up so that God now becomes subordinate to them according to Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology.  Reading these things in cult indoctrination books would have previously caused people to loudly protest, but these same people are blinded by the honor given to those who hold doctorate degrees and who hold public respect and they allow these men to publicly lower the Son of God without one word of protest!