Paula

Michael,

Paula, I think you know full well that Jack is a nickname for John, just like John Kennedy was known as Jack. Ankerberg goes by both. What earth does this have to with anything we are talking about?

Huh? You mentioned him first, and I related what I knew about him as it pertains to OEC. I don’t know how you missed the connection. And the name correction is important when you’re talking about well-known apologists and personalities. I don’t recall ever hearing anyone call him “Jack” in all the years I watched his show. It is not a general rule to call anyone named John, “Jack” either.

And this was your main comment on that post?

Hmmmm…

You err in misunderstanding what “ordinal” means. It is not “one” but “first”, not “two” but “second”. Most of your examples of yom used with a number all used cardinal numbers, not ordinals. The only one you cited that was an ordinal was Hosea 6:2, and it is in a poetic passage. This is hardly a refutation of the point that taken together, the phrase “evening and morning, the nth day” must refer to 24-hour days. Genesis is not written as poetry but as historical narrative. Huge difference.

You claim also that since only Genesis uses this phrase that it must therefore have some off-the-wall meaning. This is utterly ridiculous. It’s like saying that if Paul uses the word authentein only one place that we can just rip it out of context and attach any meaning we want.

Then you use the old “primitive language” excuse as a last resort to denying the literal meaning of the text, as if God were at a loss for words and didn’t know what to tell Moses to write.

My conclusion: Let the text tell you what God did, instead of insulting the intelligence of either Moses or God or the ancient Hebrews. What it can mean if you stretch it a lot is not what it does mean.

And yes, the order of evolutionary theory cannot abide plants before sunlight, or millions of years of plants without insects. It doesn’t match at all.

I’m sorry but it’s obvious no minds will be changed in spite of the plain meaning of scripture or the true facts of science. I’ve done all I can. I’ll leave you with a non-AIG and non-ICR science site:
http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~do_while/sage/index.htm

Of particular interest to you might be this list of links about scientists and credentials:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?cp=1252&FORM=FREESS&q=credentials&q1=site%3AScienceAgainstEvolution.org

Farewell.