Mark

Hi TL,

Thanks for your engagement. I think you have misunderstood me. What i was questioning was Cheryls comment

“But what you have missed is that the humanity of Jesus cannot be used to teach what He is in the Trinity. You must go to the OT to see the full complete Deity of Christ without His humanity.”

I honestly think Cheryl has probably just worded this badly, because my point is that Jesus deity (man- ness and God-ness) can only be present when he is both. I am not saying Jesus didnt exist until his incarnation-that is complete heresy, do not think this is what i mean.

I agree with your definition of the Trinity. The problem i see is this, when we stress the unity of the Godhead and neglect the individual persons of the Godhead we fail to fully describe the Trinity. This is what was known as Monarchianism or Modalism in the early church and was condemned as heresy. Essentially the teaching is the Trinity are so united that they claim the Father was the one crucified- there is no direct dstinction between the persons of the trinity. Therefore i will always claim that the Father sent the son. The son redeemed us, and the spirit sanctifies us. I am not saying that any member has more authority than the others, just that they have different functions in salvation history.

Hope this helps understand my position. If it doesn’t or you disagree please le me know.