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Cheryl Schatz

Cheryl Schatz

2009-09-29

45 Gengwall,

[1] Paul repeats this in Colossians 3:20,22, even including “in all things”. Clearly, the obedience in all things of children to their parents or slaves to their masters differs from the submission in all things asked of wives toward their husbands. The difference is clear. Our task is to mine out what that difference means, not try to make two obviously different things mean the same thing.

Excellent! You are showing us all that mining out the meaning of Paul’s words is hard work and the “easy” way out is to disregard the fact that Paul uses different words and said in a different way.

The fact is that we are all to grow up and be mature.

1 Cor 14:20 Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature.

Eph 4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ;
Eph 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
Eph 4:14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;
Eph 4:15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ,

The way that the complementarian position is preached from popular comp preachers would mean that women of all those in the body of Christ are the only ones who are not required to “grow up” since they just sit back and let the man make all the decisions. Children grow up and make their own decisions as do women who are not married. But married women are to walk in a position of obedience to anything that is not sin and thus give up their ability to be wise in decision making ability? Is this really what the Scriptures say? It can’t be since all of us, and that includes married women are to grow up in maturity and in making mature decisions.

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