Cheryl Schatz

@207 gengwall,
You said:

I am not taking vs. 11 to be a plural special group of women but as a singular generic example of “the woman”.

I am not sure if I understand you correctly. Are you saying that Timothy was to understand Paul in verse 11 that “any woman” who is deceived is to submit to learn? And in verse 12 “any woman” who is teaching and “authentein” her husband, Timothy is to stop (any women who is doing that). And that a specific woman is not in view until verse 14?

“Authentein” is a very rare word and with a specific meaning to Timothy. Are you saying that there would be many more women who were doing this to their husbands? If there are many more potential women who are doing the same thing, would there be women in other churches practicing “authentein” or this is an Ephesian anomaly?

If this is what you are saying, then is there anyone in particular that Timothy is to stop from teaching per verse 12 or is this just in case there is anyone like this, this is what you are to do?

If verse 11 is generic, would it not have been natural for Paul to continue with the term “women” instead of “woman”? And if verse 11 and 12 are generic “woman” and not a specific woman, then is the “they” of verse 15 also generic women who are deceived?

I can’t do anything more than this tonight as my mind is totally gone and I am exhausted. I hope that what I have written and my questions make sense.