Cheryl Schatz

Mark, I am glad that you are still keeping up with us! Again, I think it would be good to do clips 3 & 4 together.

Is it not legitimate for Eve to say “God said” if it was Adam who told her what God said- i don’t think so, it is still God saying it.

The grammar would have to change for that. The way the inspired text is written, Eve is quoting God directly. If Adam had told her what God said, how would she be able to quote God directly? Rather she would have said, “God told Adam” or “Adam said” but she certainly could not quote God is God had not spoken directly to her. It isn’t possible for the grammar to add in an intermediary in the mix. It is a direct quote.

She is not lying if Adam told her what God said. You are disregarding this possiblity. It could be equally true and not make Eve a liar nor make her a sinner before the fall.

But God didn’t say this to Adam in chapter 2. Did Adam lie? Or did God tell them both what they could and couldn’t eat in chapter 1? If He told them both, just as the told the both additional things that they could eat, it would not be necessary for Adam to tell Eve because she was there too to hear God.

The most natural flow of the passage is that God spoke to Eve directly at the time when He told them both additions on what they could eat. There is no natural flow that would create an indirect quote from God through Adam. The grammar won’t allow that.

Why is it so easy for you to have God give Adam additional information than what is quoted in chapter 2 but not have God also give Eve this information? Is it possible that you have a little bit of prejudice towards the woman thinking that Adam alone deserved to hear the command directly from God and Eve did not?

On to the next comment.