Cheryl Schatz

Mark,

I missed your Bible references on your post. Sorry. I have been copying and pasting sections for comment and for some reason I must have been interrupted and didn’t finish reading that one post. I apologize for my misstep. There has been a lot of reading and a lot that could be missed.

So let’s see. There does appear to be a contradiction. But since I know for sure that God does not lie and I also know that God does not contradict Himself, let’s have a look at the Hebrew to see what is going on.

A further complication occurs because Exodus 6:3 notes that God says, “I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself known to them.” The resolution to this apparent contradiction to some 150 uses of the name Yahweh during the patriarchal period is to be found in a technical point of Hebrew grammar, know as beth essentiae, in the phrase “by my name.” This phrase meant that while Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob heard and used the name Yahweh, it was only in Moses’ day that the realization of the character, nature and essence of what that name meant became clear. “By the name” is better translated “in the character [or nature] of Yahweh [was I not known].”
From Hard Sayings of the Bible by Walter C. Kaiser Jr. Peter H. Davids, FF Bruce, Manfred T. Brauch pg 88

So here is an “apparent” contradiction that I had not encountered before and the specific Hebrew grammar that I had not researched before but others have shown the inspired grammar that fixes the problem.

I really do appreciate you Cheryl, you are chalenging. I am sorry for questioning your motives, please forgive me. I am passionate about the word of God and im sure you know its hard not to lose control sometimes.

Mark, I forgive you. I will not let it taint the way I accept you as a dear brother in Christ. I understand that this issue (and myself) can be challenging. That’s okay. Challenges stretch us and grow us and make us more like Christ.

What I have learned to do and I hope that I succeed more than I fail, is to strive to give my patience to others, and to remove myself from the emotional connection. This entire issue has caused me great pain in the past. I lost dear friends because they treated me very badly and walked out of my life over the issue of whether a woman can teach the Bible to men. The issue was about Bible studies in the home teaching verse by verse not an issue of being a pastor in a formal church building. I was judged by those who should have loved me. But with the help of the indwelling Holy Spirit, I chose to take the harm that had been done to me and turn it into a work of love for God. It took me quite awhile to get healing and not to feel great pain when dealing with this issue.

I chose to research the hard passages of Scripture verse by verse and present the Biblical evidence without striking out at the complementarian camp who greatly hurt me. If I were to stay in my emotions because of the way I had been treated I would feel worthless and useless because I was born female and to many complementarians that is a place of restriction, a place of silence (meaning my spiritual thoughts are not worth hearing when a man is present) and a life of shame supposedly passed on to me through the deception of Eve.

But God doesn’t see me that way and His love has brought me great healing. He has given me strength to be kind to those who I believe have been deceived. I don’t want to treat them like the enemy. Our enemy is satan not our brothers in Christ. I believe that God specializes in using the weak to confound the wise. The worth of a woman, even if she is worth far less than a man in the eyes of the world and far less in the eyes of some in the Church, is a tremendous gift to the Church when she walks in the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Please do consider the problems with some of your views regarding Genesis. In terms of my Exegesis of 1 Corinthians 11 perhaps you post my paper first, so people can see that superiority over was is a possible translation for kephale.

No problem with Genesis at all. I just learned something new myself. Learning about the Hebrew and Greek grammar has been invaluable to me in my research and this issue is just one more example that the exact grammar in the Hebrew can remove all charges of a contradiction.

As far as your exegesis, putting your “proof” of the word usage along with your exegesis is the powerful way to prove your point. That is how I did not DVD set and since the lexicons differ on this word, the deciding factor will be the “fit” in the passage. I am asking you to please work on that and send it to me. I think that it will work for a new topic here and be lots to talk about.

I will probably not be on line much tonight as I have lots to do and have spent more time on my blog that I should have. Yes, Mark, passion is part of my character too.