Hannah Thomas

“And men who lust for power and authority continue to dishonor women and deal treacherously with them.”

This is what feminism saids, not what complementarians say. It is disappointing to hear these type of things. If egals think that comps are lusting for power and manipulate and downgrade women it will be very difficult to ever dialogue effectively on these issues.
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Mark feminism isn’t the only camp that feel this way at times.

There are men all over this earth that fill that sentence quite nicely, and I’m sure you could even think of some.

Its hardly a ‘feminism’ belief alone, and no offense comps do love to say that word for some reason. I realize its a hot button word for alot of people, but it can be used to divert a sense of truth from some men as well. You need to keep that mind the bible does speak of man’s thirst for power, and YES it does happen within the church as well. I have wonder what phrases they coined at that time to divert away from the subject.

Does that mean EVERY man that is comp follows this for his own personal power? No.

When I read some the responses from comps with it comes to a ministry I deal with personally? I seriously have to wonder if some parts are pushed a tad to much (to put it nicely), and YES that is what you end up with! I also find in alot of places that is very hard to accept. The ‘f’ word is normally thrown out there as well when it is pointed out. Its a signal to me they have ended the discussion, and they won’t even go near the spiritual abusive ways the men have used scripture to harm their family.

I grew up with a comp background. When it was time that my grandparents needed to be removed from their home due to Alzheimer, etc. my mother asked for help from their church (and her’s when she was a child). My grandfather due to his condition and other factors was pretty darn scary, and hard to manage. He was a danger to himself and everyone else. Mom was afraid of him at that point, and state was very individualistic. They told her she had to remove him on her own, and that is WHY she asked the church for help. They basically refused due to not wishing overstep his leadership.etc. It totally threw me for a loop! He and his wife were sick, and needed help. They KNEW because they couldn’t control his behavior at church, and stopped picking them up on Sundays for church after 65 years. They blew us off until it came time they were afraid he might die in his home, and pressured the state to step in. Sounds like from what we heard pretty much threaten them if they didn’t remove them the church would do something. It was to late at that point, and he died within a couple of days.

lol you don’t want to call that a type of oppression that’s fine! I will call it a warped sense of ‘leadership’ along with other things. My grandmother suffered as well, and this wasn’t some fly by night church. It was big, powerful, and in a large city. One that popular comp speakers would love to visit and preach at.

That man wasn’t in the position to speak of his role, because his mind was GONE! My grandmother was at a HUGE risk of being hurt very badly, and they wanted to STILL respect his role of HEAD. You have to admit that is a bit ugly don’t you think?

When you know things like that happen you have to expect a bit backlash, and throwing the F bomb out to deal with it looks like diversion. Seriously if you want to place an end to these ‘myths’ than deal with them head on, and don’t go around the subject like that!

You are brave and I appreciate your presence here personally.

I have an uncle that was a comp missionary, and I have to tell you even HE thought what happened to us was awful. When you have those that PUSH those roles a bit to hard? To me it leaves common sense behind with alot of basic human happens in people’s lifes. I’m thankful they coerced the state to remove him before he did die in the home, but at times I truly resent that they abandon him in his true time of need. Roles wasn’t needed – common sense and compassion was.

Okay – I’m shutting up now. lol sorry!