Cheryl Schatz

Mark,
You said:

Where have i ever disregarded the gift of teacher? Or is this another assumption of yours? I simply pointed out how Paul correlates the gift of teacher with gift of pastor in Eph 4, which you are now agreeing with.

You have said that women cannot be teachers in the church because they cannot be pastors. You appeal to Ephesians 4:11 and disregard the term “teacher” as if it is completely morphed into “pastor” so that one must be a pastor to be a teacher. Of course the question still needs to be answered…can a woman be a pastor? Can she be gifted as a pastor by God?

You said:

again you said “But you deny that prophesying is teaching”

That was a typo on my part. What I meant to say was

If doing shepherding (verb) makes one a shepherd, then teaching through prophesying must also make one a teacher. But you deny that one who prophesies is a teacher so you have a big problem because you are inconsistent.

If I am wrong, then do you now admit that one who prophesies is a teacher?

IT is you who is being unfaithful by saying that pastoring/teaching/prophesying are all the same. I have simply used the bible to show where you were wrong.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I have never said that teaching is the same as pastoring. Nor have I said that prophesying is the same as teaching. We have both agreed that one who prophesies will teach in the act of using their gift, but prophesying is different than teaching just as the gift of Prophet is different than the gift of Teacher. Are you really sure you understand my position?