Lin

“Paul was not dishonored that a woman had been his benefactor.”

I know some of these CBMW contributers and I can say they do not turn down money from wealthy women.

“Shouldn’t they be more worried about what dishonors God? I think you are spot on to suggest that issues of shame and dishonor go hand in hand with the issue of pride. Didn’t Paul say “But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world”?”

Kay, YOu have nailed the underlying truth of their teaching. It is about elevating themselves.

“Until you move complementarians off of this fundimental belief in God’s design for males, the most rational arguments and appeals to scripture will fall on deaf ears, or worse, be construed as an attack against the very will of God.”

Gengwell, what is even stranger is that these views are fairly new from a historical perspective.

For thousand years the belief was that the Fall instituted Patriarchy and was from God. The woman was to blame. When that would not fly (probably after folks could read the Word for themselves) they changed it to Patriarchy instituted BEFORE the Fall based on what you wrote above which has to be READ INTO IT.