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@j0rdanistyping @MikeWingerii Yet we both think we are right and have a biblical reason for our view. The point is that it isn't a primary matter for which we divide nor is it a matter of sin. It is a debatable matter. Think about this for a minute⎯...

@j0rdanistyping @MikeWingerii Yet we both think we are right and have a biblical reason for our view. The point is that it isn't a primary matter for which we divide nor is it a matter of sin. It is a

@peace_got @MikeWingerii So egalitarians should tolerate complementarian restric

@peace_got @MikeWingerii So egalitarians should tolerate complementarian restrictions but complementarians should divide from egalitarian churches which practice freedom?

@StevenMKestner @MikeWingerii But I believe this on the basis of scripture and t

@StevenMKestner @MikeWingerii But I believe this on the basis of scripture and that scripture does not exclude or prohibit someone on the basis of their biology but on their soundness in the faith, th

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement as for elders. But Mike thinks its only the male d...

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement

1Ti 3:12 debate

@peace_got @MikeWingerii The fact that we disagree is evident. But to presume it is because people don't read their Bibles is to presume your view is correct. Believe me when I say that I have read the relevant passages many times and extremely caref...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii The fact that we disagree is evident. But to presume it is because people don't read their Bibles is to presume your view is correct. Believe me when I say that I have read th

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Absolutely fine and encouraged to try to convince other

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Absolutely fine and encouraged to try to convince others of your view and educate ignorant people. I'm not against that at all. But tolerating others who disagree on secondary

@GlennDavies @MikeWingerii Calling those who disagree on secondary matters to repent of spreading those teachings and acting on them is not a minor thing. Mike (and I suppose you) will continue to hear from me until he re-evaluates his hard stance (...

@GlennDavies @MikeWingerii Calling those who disagree on secondary matters to repent of spreading those teachings and acting on them is not a minor thing. Mike (and I suppose you) will continue to he

@Gates_of_Derry @MikeWingerii I should have said "if one group cannot live within the restrictions imposed or freedoms practiced by the church they are attending, then they have the option to leave peaceably and find another church that agrees with t...

@Gates_of_Derry @MikeWingerii I should have said "if one group cannot live within the restrictions imposed or freedoms practiced by the church they are attending, then they have the option to leave pe

@Gates_of_Derry @MikeWingerii Right, secondary doesn't mean unimportant. But it also means it isn't sin, because sin is a primary matter we divide over. Does Mike call Calvinists to repent and divide from Calvinist churches? Does he call those who p...

@Gates_of_Derry @MikeWingerii Right, secondary doesn't mean unimportant. But it also means it isn't sin, because sin is a primary matter we divide over. Does Mike call Calvinists to repent and divide

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii This is not true, but you are allowed to disagree.

@slow_down_Jess @MikeWingerii This is not true, but you are allowed to disagree. Just make sure that if you must leave an egalitarian church, that you do it peaceably and not attempting to divide it.

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and pastors. If you cannot tolerate a secondary diffe...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and

@AslansHowe @Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii I was an egalitarian for many years and my family tolerated being in a complementarian church. Why? Because it's not a matter of sin, but of conviction. If you can't tolerate this, then leave peaceably with t...

@AslansHowe @Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii I was an egalitarian for many years and my family tolerated being in a complementarian church. Why? Because it's not a matter of sin, but of conviction. If yo

@MrAndreRobles @DeadpointTrav @MikeWingerii He is not Biblically accurate in his

@MrAndreRobles @DeadpointTrav @MikeWingerii He is not Biblically accurate in his assessment of egalitarianism, but you are free to conclude that of course. Here are the relevant clips. https://t.co/R

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii First, I was responding to @MikeJGreiner who called egalitarian scholars dishonest and unskilled. I have no problem with complementarians holding their view. I've attended comp churches and lived at peace w...

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii First, I was responding to @MikeJGreiner who called egalitarian scholars dishonest and unskilled. I have no problem with complementarians holding their view

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are limited to not being elders nor acting like elders (which he says means speaking authoritatively or speaking in a struct

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@havenhoops @ryancduff @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii I did. I disagree with Mike.

@havenhoops @ryancduff @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii I did. I disagree with Mike. And I have a Biblically faithful egalitarian exegesis of 1Ti 2:11-15. https://t.co/KiNGBtq8Pz

1Ti 2:11-15 debate

@MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure that if we sat down and I asked you the questions raised by the text, I would have a faithful exegesis treating everything written as inspired and you would be left scratching your head with no answers and ...

@MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure that if we sat down and I asked you the questions raised by the text, I would have a faithful exegesis treating everything written as inspired and you would

@MikeWingerii Ok. So then why are you so authoritative against egalitarian teach

@MikeWingerii Ok. So then why are you so authoritative against egalitarian teaching when you yourself admit it is secondary? 🤨 https://t.co/VVIU7usYT3

"Thank you for refusing to proclaim, with any authority, less or more than what Scripture says."⎯@MikeWingerii Something you yourself might want to consider related to your call for egalitarians to repent of the teaching and others to loudly leave t...

"Thank you for refusing to proclaim, with any authority, less or more than what Scripture says."⎯@MikeWingerii Something you yourself might want to consider related to your call for egalitarians to r

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-09

RT @CherylSchatz: Another Genesis question. Who opened Eve's eyes for her to see

RT @CherylSchatz: Another Genesis question. Who opened Eve's eyes for her to see that she had been DECEIVED?

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-06

@CherylSchatz @DougLundy7 @jamesdpeavy @salvationarmy Agreed. I don’t understand

@CherylSchatz @DougLundy7 @jamesdpeavy @salvationarmy Agreed. I don’t understand how they can purely spiritualize what are clear physical acts in scripture though they are correct that these are not r

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-05

@DivineDissident Normally I consider a red flag as a warning prior to engagement or marriage. Unfortunately, these issues seem to show up only after marriage as the new husband feels he now has the responsibility to control his wife. Men need to be e...

@DivineDissident Normally I consider a red flag as a warning prior to engagement or marriage. Unfortunately, these issues seem to show up only after marriage as the new husband feels he now has the re

@paulogia0 @BradVWall Leading people away from the truth isn’t noble. Clearly on

@paulogia0 @BradVWall Leading people away from the truth isn’t noble. Clearly one of us is wrong as we cannot both be right.

@AVER735 @RichardDawkins Right. I was just surprised that Dawkins would describe

@AVER735 @RichardDawkins Right. I was just surprised that Dawkins would describe himself that way when he is so against the God of the Bible.

For those who struggle with some of the things Dawkins has said about the Bible,

For those who struggle with some of the things Dawkins has said about the Bible, perhaps you will find the following helpful. https://t.co/hqM5T1J8iH

@MarkGrote Agreed that weighing prophecy means that there may be something incor

@MarkGrote Agreed that weighing prophecy means that there may be something incorrect. What do you mean by the source? Paul said that even if he or an Angel was to preach a different gospel that it sho

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@carol66944 Right, the problem isn’t with the women in general. Are you suggesti

@carol66944 Right, the problem isn’t with the women in general. Are you suggesting that if there is in fact a false teacher in Ephesus that Paul hadn’t dealt with that this means Paul or Timothy hasti

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@ronhenzel @kennyinnes Further, why cease with only prophecy and not also with t

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes Further, why cease with only prophecy and not also with the teaching gift? If we no longer see as in a mirror dimly (1Co 13:12) and the partial is gone and the full has come, th

1Co 13:12 question

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes You are imposing something on Paul’s intention that I don’t see in his listed purposes which are: 1️⃣ Building Up the Church: Prophecy serves to edify, or build up, the church (1Co 14:4). 2️⃣ Encouragement and Consolation: Pr...

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes You are imposing something on Paul’s intention that I don’t see in his listed purposes which are: 1️⃣ Building Up the Church: Prophecy serves to edify, or build up, the church

1Co 14:4 general

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes My church doesn’t encourage prophecy and tongues because of Asuza but because of 1Co 12-14. The idea that understanding and exhortation is not necessary after the final sentence of Revelation was penned is clearly fallacious. ...

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes My church doesn’t encourage prophecy and tongues because of Asuza but because of 1Co 12-14. The idea that understanding and exhortation is not necessary after the final sentenc

@ronhenzel @Whitehorse1255 Paul doesn’t say to weigh the prophet but to weigh th

@ronhenzel @Whitehorse1255 Paul doesn’t say to weigh the prophet but to weigh the prophecy. Why would Paul be suggesting to allow a false prophet to speak?

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes That is some really sound Biblical Exegesis there Ron.

@ronhenzel @Whitehorse1255 So it appears you are imposing a category of prophecy

@ronhenzel @Whitehorse1255 So it appears you are imposing a category of prophecy here which Paul was not intending.

@ronhenzel @Whitehorse1255 Why else would Paul specify that “2 or 3 prophets should speak and the others should pass judgement (1Co 14:29)? Should we pass judgment on canon revelation? It would seem that there is prophecy made in Corinth that is not ...

@ronhenzel @Whitehorse1255 Why else would Paul specify that “2 or 3 prophets should speak and the others should pass judgement (1Co 14:29)? Should we pass judgment on canon revelation? It would seem t

1Co 14:29 question

@kennyinnes @ronhenzel Exactly. And without a single command in scripture as to

@kennyinnes @ronhenzel Exactly. And without a single command in scripture as to when we are to disregard the commands Paul gives to eagerly desire to prophecy and to not forbid tongues, cessationists

@ronhenzel Further, how did the Corinthians know when to stop doing what they we

@ronhenzel Further, how did the Corinthians know when to stop doing what they were regularly doing when Paul’s instruction was to eagerly desire to prophesy?

@ronhenzel When did the cessation occur then? Paul says that the gifts are for

@ronhenzel When did the cessation occur then? Paul says that the gifts are for the edification of the church and that prophecy is the greatest as it was for learning and exhortation (1Co 14:31). Ha

1Co 14:31 question

@ronhenzel Paul literally says in the next chapter to earnestly desire to prop

@ronhenzel Paul literally says in the next chapter to *earnestly desire* to prophesy and to *not forbid* speaking in tongues—both are in the imperative. "Therefore, my brothers and sisters, earnestly

1Co 14:39 general

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not all are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teache...

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not *all* are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the chu

@JohnsdeSBaptist @Just_A_Man67 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii What most think is c

@JohnsdeSBaptist @Just_A_Man67 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii What most think is clear scripture on forbidding women is just your reading your tradition into the text. Scratch an inch below the surface

@UrMomChoseLife @GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii If in fact they ignored clear scriptu

@UrMomChoseLife @GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii If in fact they ignored clear scripture to get there, I understand that sentiment. However, what you say is “clear” is actually just your tradition that you

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-01

@equipping_faith When does Gal 3:26-28 saying apply? Does it not apply to the ch

@equipping_faith When does Gal 3:26-28 saying apply? Does it not apply to the church?

Gal 3:26-28 question

@Trentofthenorth @Unashamed_Chuck @JamesDitto12 On what basis do you make such a

@Trentofthenorth @Unashamed_Chuck @JamesDitto12 On what basis do you make such a claim? Male authority over women is an idea imported into the text by men.

1Co 6:2-3 Rev 2:26-28 Rev 3:21 debate

@B_Christs_Amb Yes, our inheritance which includes ruling and reigning with Christ on His throne (Rev 3:21), judging the nations and even judging angels (1Co 6:2-3; Rev 2:26-28). There is no gender-role hierarchy of authority of husband over wife. Y...

@B_Christs_Amb Yes, our inheritance which includes ruling and reigning with Christ on His throne (Rev 3:21), judging the nations and even judging angels (1Co 6:2-3; Rev 2:26-28). There is no gender-r

@Unashamed_Chuck @JamesDitto12 Yes, the man is the head, but not in the way that you think. This is not about authority over or rule over but, sourcing marriage back to the very first marriage and its basis in the origin of the woman from Adam’s fles...

@Unashamed_Chuck @JamesDitto12 Yes, the man is the head, but not in the way that you think. This is not about authority over or rule over but, sourcing marriage back to the very first marriage and its

@WellRedneck Both are to willingly subject themselves to each other (Eph 5:21). The husband is said to live His wife as Christ lived the church. That doesn’t mean that the wife isn’t to love her husband the same way. The wife is said to respect her...

@WellRedneck Both are to willingly subject themselves to each other (Eph 5:21). The husband is said to live His wife as Christ lived the church. That doesn’t mean that the wife isn’t to love her husb

Eph 5:21 general

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if married); teaches one-man-one-woman monogamous relation...

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if marri

@StevenMKestner Can a son hold the office of an elder?

@scottspeig If it was just a salvific issue then Greeks, slaves and women (v28)

@scottspeig If it was just a salvific issue then Greeks, slaves and women (v28) would all be barred from leadership roles as those would only belong to Jewish males.