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@Torncurtainorg @AngEngland @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7

@Torncurtainorg @AngEngland @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Jesus also didn’t appoint Gentiles to leadership. He left a few matters for the church to work out. 😉

@EirChristina I wish we could have more than 4 options (actually 3 since you usu

@EirChristina I wish we could have more than 4 options (actually 3 since you usually need to give an “I don’t know” or “other” option). Thanks for sharing! Will update once the poll is over with what

@StevenMKestner If they have the requisite character, able to teach, are sound i

@StevenMKestner If they have the requisite character, able to teach, are sound in the faith and are otherwise not disqualified, and they have the desire, then yes. Scripture does not forbid someone f

@carol66944 Interesting proposition. Where is the “declarative infinitive” discu

@carol66944 Interesting proposition. Where is the “declarative infinitive” discussed in Wallace’s “Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics”?

@CharmyRosewolf @jmmooreo Payne it seems would pick option 2, but he also agrees with option 3. “On account of the angels: The context here is worship, and Paul refers to angels in the context of worship elsewhere. Earlier in 1 Corinthians he wrote:...

@CharmyRosewolf @jmmooreo Payne it seems would pick option 2, but he also agrees with option 3. “On account of the angels: The context here is worship, and Paul refers to angels in the context of wor

@ScottCross_8 @ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii What Ron said is disingenuous. He knows that this has nothing to do with beginner Greek. I can even show Dr Wallace saying that the article is not required to poi...

@ScottCross_8 @ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii What Ron said is disingenuous. He knows that this has nothing to do with beginner Greek. I can even show Dr Wall

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Your s

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Your statement that I’m making a beginner Greek mistake is disingenuous. You should take it back, Ron, because I know that you

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii From Dr. Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: “Most individualizing articles will be anaphoric in a very broad sense. That is, they will be used to point out something t...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii From Dr. Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: “Most individualizing articles will be anaphoric in a very broad sense. T

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, y

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, you *absolutely know* that what I’m explaining works. This has nothing to do with “beginner Greek” because the same idea

@Torncurtainorg @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii In addition to Scott's question, my question is why the physical aspect of protection has anything to do with leadership in church. Women have the instinc...

@Torncurtainorg @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii In addition to Scott's question, my question is why the physical aspect of protection has anything to do

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @JollyStine @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My former church went to this as the last stage before becoming egalitarian. The trigger was when the senior pastor left and the associate, a female, wanted to be consi...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @JollyStine @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My former church went to this as the last stage before becoming egalitarian. The trigger was when the senior pastor le

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii This is where Mike Winger’s statements get messy. Because he says it’s a secondary issue and egalitarians are beloved family and brothers and sisters in Christ, but the...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii This is where Mike Winger’s statements get messy. Because he says it’s a secondary issue and egalitarians are beloved

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. K

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. Keep it up! The Christ/church picture demonstrates mutual submission, not one person with the trump card over the other.

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingeri

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Just not as leaders of the church, right?

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingeri

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii I see differences in men and women that are complementary. Patriarchalists took a word that egalitarians might have us

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Mike says he is a soft complementarian but he doesn't like using the word soft as he thinks it does affect all of life even outside of church and family. However, he be...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Mike says he is a soft complementarian but he doesn't like using the word soft as he thinks it does affect all of life

@ymmotrojam @russ_hjelm @HeGTiSunesis So called "exceptions" actually shows us t

@ymmotrojam @russ_hjelm @HeGTiSunesis So called "exceptions" actually shows us that men having long hair isn't unnatural. The thing is that society teaches us there's a difference, but nature...? Nat

@Aub42 Fair. It's more important once people start acting on difficult passages like this and using them to suppress women. But when you understand what it really means, you get a really great appreciation for what God wants us to understand in scrip...

@Aub42 Fair. It's more important once people start acting on difficult passages like this and using them to suppress women. But when you understand what it really means, you get a really great appreci

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the home. If she is fortunate enough to have kids, sh...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingeri

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Fair. And women even in complementarian relationships still have some responsibility. This is not about overriding Go

@Zoey_Granitz 😂. PS> Those same women, when they leave the church building a

@Zoey_Granitz 😂. PS> Those same women, when they leave the church building and go home, take off their hats. 🤯

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My wife was mostly complementarian as she didn't really want the responsibility. I enjoyed being a kid too and not having to be responsible for things, but we all need...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My wife was mostly complementarian as she didn't really want the responsibility. I enjoyed being a kid too and not ha

@russ_hjelm Well, in that case, women would have authority! 😉

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii You are a very sincere guy and have a good heart. You make a great complementarian. No matter, you are still wrong. What would it take to convince you that the egalit...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii You are a very sincere guy and have a good heart. You make a great complementarian. No matter, you are still wrong.

What did Paul mean by "Therefore the woman should have authority on her head bec

What did Paul mean by "Therefore the woman should have authority on her head because of the angels" (1Co 11:10)?

1Co 11:10 question

@carmony_bryce Huh? There's a lot of protestant churches that forbid women from

@carmony_bryce Huh? There's a lot of protestant churches that forbid women from any leadership roles... just so you are aware.

Thinking of the meaning of 1Co 11:14-15, what does nature teach you concerning

Thinking of the meaning of 1Co 11:14-15, what does *nature* teach you concerning the difference between head hair on a boy and a girl (presuming you don’t cut it)?

1Co 11:14-15 question

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still”

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still” How long was Jesus’ hair? How about John the Baptist who never cut his hair? Samson? Absalom? Anyone taking a Nazarite

Ac 18:18 question

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians time to catch up and many believe that as long as...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1,5 (elect lady) and vs 13 (chosen sister)? Also, w...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1

@FraudDMartin Not everyone thinks this way. I’m not even sure Smash does…he seem

@FraudDMartin Not everyone thinks this way. I’m not even sure Smash does…he seems to generate click bait posts. His concern is that woman should not be pastors as he thinks the Bible forbids them. Bu

@ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @MikeWingerii Now the question is why. Why do they wear them? Is it not to show shame for sin in God’s presence? As Christians, our shame for sin has been removed in Christ! Paul says we should NOT cover our heads. Covering...

@ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @MikeWingerii Now the question is why. Why do they wear them? Is it not to show shame for sin in God’s presence? As Christians, our shame for sin has been removed in Christ!

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English becau

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English because the translators are just as puzzled as you are. They shouldn’t have done that as it’s misleading. She should have au

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii No. All you need to do is go back to the same letter Paul made the reference in… 1Co 6:2-3. Just read it. It will make perfect sense. If women will judge angels, then SURELY they have the ability to decide whether to...

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii No. All you need to do is go back to the same letter Paul made the reference in… 1Co 6:2-3. Just read it. It will make perfect sense. If women will judge angels, then

1Co 6:2-3 general

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such pra...

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone

1Co 11:16 debate

@JollyStine @rr74cm @MikeWingerii Plus it’s based on the interpretation which ha

@JollyStine @rr74cm @MikeWingerii Plus it’s based on the interpretation which has Paul advocating FOR the use of head coverings which is the exact opposite of what Paul says.

@rr74cm @MikeWingerii @JollyStine No, you don’t go all the way back to Gen 6 and think that for 2 hours in a church service that a head covering keeps them from being tempted by the women. Can angels see them without their head coverings in their hom...

@rr74cm @MikeWingerii @JollyStine No, you don’t go all the way back to Gen 6 and think that for 2 hours in a church service that a head covering keeps them from being tempted by the women. Can angels

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional interpretation of Paul advocating for head coverings. Let me ask you this: what does nature tell you is the difference

@TarienCole @JollyStine @MikeWingerii A woman who had an unbelieving husband was to have the authority over her own head to decide whether to wear a covering or not. The reason was because she has two heads, Christ and her husband, and Paul—by comm...

@TarienCole @JollyStine @MikeWingerii A woman who had an unbelieving husband was to have the authority over *her own* head to decide whether to wear a covering or not. The reason was because she has t

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritativ

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritatively” (whatever that means), nor occupy the role of an elder, nor do anything to make it appear that they are acting in t

commentary

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral roles. It is referring to “a woman” which v14 spec...

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral

@JoeAdrian256 How does treating women as equals do damage to the church? Do you

@JoeAdrian256 How does treating women as equals do damage to the church? Do you equate egalitarianism with gender-fluidity? Because that’s not at all what I’m suggesting…

@apurpleshadow @JollyStine That simply means that a wife—especially one who has an unbelieving Jewish husband, can make up her own mind whether she wears a head covering or not. Why because of the angels? Because of 1Co 6:2-3. If women are going to j...

@apurpleshadow @JollyStine That simply means that a wife—especially one who has an unbelieving Jewish husband, can make up her own mind whether she wears a head covering or not. Why because of the ang

1Co 6:2-3 commentary

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine No, it means “he has NO such practice” (ie. head coverin

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine No, it means “he has NO such practice” (ie. head coverings) in any of the churches.

commentary

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Interesting. Paul said that he had NO such practice (i

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Interesting. Paul said that he had NO such practice (ie. head coverings)… "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor have the churches of Go

1Co 11:16 debate

@Here4Now0829 @smashbaals @bornagainbrett I see. It may be that there are no wom

@Here4Now0829 @smashbaals @bornagainbrett I see. It may be that there are no women prophets or gifted to teach in your entire church, but do they forbid women from teaching, reading scripture, prophes

@SwordMasterPub @johnmarkallen James does know some Greek. I wanted to find some

@SwordMasterPub @johnmarkallen James does know some Greek. I wanted to find someone who disagreed with me who could explain what I was seeing. I’ll see if I can find another Greek technician explainin

@JonKismetCalvin @ryancduff To be honest, there are serious false teachings here

@JonKismetCalvin @ryancduff To be honest, there are serious false teachings here so it’s not about resisting the Holy Spirit. Though you may be right in other areas that he does that.

@aMalacandra That’s certainly how it can feel though most seem to say that women

@aMalacandra That’s certainly how it can feel though most seem to say that women should learn. They are just stuck on the whole pastor thing.

@Song_Never_Ends @MartinGloba Where is “clergy” in the Bible? And where does it

@Song_Never_Ends @MartinGloba Where is “clergy” in the Bible? And where does it say this is limited to males?