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@LovesSardine The requirements for elder are character qualifications and ability to teach, not whether you are male, female, Jewish, Gentile, married, single, short, tall, young or old, single, widowed, rich or poor. Paul's purpose was to stop the ...

@LovesSardine The requirements for elder are character qualifications and ability to teach, not whether you are male, female, Jewish, Gentile, married, single, short, tall, young or old, single, widow

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ Many Christians agree with my conclusions...just not always with the same reasons I use. I don't bring in Artemis as I don't see Paul referring to this cult but to Jewish myths. It matters not...

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ Many Christians agree with my conclusions...just not always with the same reasons I use. I don't bring in Artemis as I don't see Paul referring

@LovesSardine I am aware that some actually say Paul is clearly forbidding women but that Paul shouldn't be listened to. This is a very dangerous precedent. I am not saying this at all. Peter says that some things Paul writes are hard to understand. ...

@LovesSardine I am aware that some actually say Paul is clearly forbidding women but that Paul shouldn't be listened to. This is a very dangerous precedent. I am not saying this at all. Peter says tha

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ Right, of course. Such

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ Right, of course. Such savage wolves to allow female leaders to lead alongside men, like Priscilla alongside Aquila... those savage wolves even

@JoeAdrian256 Paul uses the male form of nouns and of the idiom "one woman man"

@JoeAdrian256 Paul uses the male form of nouns and of the idiom "one woman man" but that does not require that he means male only. There are a number of verses that use aner and clearly mean any perso

@JonByers186054 1Ti 3:2 says "one woman man" or "one wife husband"⎯the male form is clear. I never said Paul wasn't using the male form of this idiom. But it doesn't mean male only is what I'm saying. Just like it doesn't mean married. Unless Paul is...

@JonByers186054 1Ti 3:2 says "one woman man" or "one wife husband"⎯the male form is clear. I never said Paul wasn't using the male form of this idiom. But it doesn't mean male only is what I'm saying.

1Ti 3:2 debate

@JonByers186054 A woman teaching "strange doctrines" (1Ti 1:3) needs to be silen

@JonByers186054 A woman teaching "strange doctrines" (1Ti 1:3) needs to be silent *and learn*. With full submission because she was teaching heresy! That's why Paul says "She will be saved..." because

1Ti 1:3 general

@JoeAdrian256 And notice that 1Ti 3 speaks of children (plural) and infers that they are believing. Does that mean you are not qualified to be an elder until you have at least two children old enough to choose to believe for themselves? Paul also did...

@JoeAdrian256 And notice that 1Ti 3 speaks of children (plural) and infers that they are believing. Does that mean you are not qualified to be an elder until you have at least two children old enough

@JoeAdrian256 I referenced 1Co 7 because Paul clarifies that he is single and advocates for others to desire to be single which would mean that if they all followed his advice, there would be no elders whatsoever! But see, you note as I did "...but *...

@JoeAdrian256 I referenced 1Co 7 because Paul clarifies that he is single and advocates for others to desire to be single which would mean that if they all followed his advice, there would be no elder

@JonByers186054 Eisegesis is inserting ideas foreign to the context into a text. How am I doing this? Which foreign ideas or concepts am I inserting? What narratives are made up? Paul connects a woman and a man with Adam and Eve, the time order of cr...

@JonByers186054 Eisegesis is inserting ideas foreign to the context into a text. How am I doing this? Which foreign ideas or concepts am I inserting? What narratives are made up? Paul connects a woman

@JoeAdrian256 Paul seems to be suggesting something more deep than being married

@JoeAdrian256 Paul seems to be suggesting something more deep than being married. Something like faithful if married and someone who promotes monogamy all in one statement.

@JoeAdrian256 Therefore, whether a person is single, married, with children, or with no children, is female or male is not part of the requirements or else Paul himself would be excluded, and likely Timothy, not to mention Paul advocates for everyone...

@JoeAdrian256 Therefore, whether a person is single, married, with children, or with no children, is female or male is not part of the requirements or else Paul himself would be excluded, and likely T

@JoeAdrian256 Thanks for continuing to discuss. I appreciate you pushing back and clarifying your position again. "...a married woman to be a pastor to one man..."⎯this is a curious framing of what I'm saying. I'm actually saying the person doesn't ...

@JoeAdrian256 Thanks for continuing to discuss. I appreciate you pushing back and clarifying your position again. "...a married woman to be a pastor to one man..."⎯this is a curious framing of what I

@StandAndKnox Paul was really telling this woman to stop teaching as she was tea

@StandAndKnox Paul was really telling this woman to stop teaching as she was teaching heresy. That's why she must learn quietly⎯so that she can teach the truth! Paul was not saying that she couldn't t

@StandAndKnox Paul links the time sequence order of creation with deception. So we must ask what it was about the time sequence of creation with Adam created, then animals created after Adam as well as the garden trees in Eden and Eve being created v...

@StandAndKnox Paul links the time sequence order of creation with deception. So we must ask what it was about the time sequence of creation with Adam created, then animals created after Adam as well a

@StandAndKnox Paul simply connected this wife who was deceived and her husband (

@StandAndKnox Paul simply connected this wife who was deceived and her husband (not deceived and silent, likely an elder) with the situation in Eden where Adam was informed and silent and only Eve was

@StandAndKnox Paul himself identifies as someone who was deceived and who God had mercy on. Paul spent considerable time in Ephesus but left some things undone, so he wanted Timothy to remain to stop the spread of strange doctrines. There was evident...

@StandAndKnox Paul himself identifies as someone who was deceived and who God had mercy on. Paul spent considerable time in Ephesus but left some things undone, so he wanted Timothy to remain to stop

@StandAndKnox The purpose of Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop the s

@StandAndKnox The purpose of Paul's personal letter to Timothy was to stop the spread of strange doctrines. Paul recognizes that there are those who are deceived and those who are in willful rebellion

@StandAndKnox Also, I'm not interpreting Paul to mean the exact opposite of what he means. I'm saying that he didn't mean what you are claiming. It is not the case that we can take any text and just make it say whatever we want. All the evidence must...

@StandAndKnox Also, I'm not interpreting Paul to mean the exact opposite of what he means. I'm saying that he didn't mean what you are claiming. It is not the case that we can take any text and just m

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ The early church though

@Meritocrating @_Nosoup4you__ @FavaAnthony @_NoSoup4You_ The early church thought only Jews were allowed too. Why don’t you correct Paul on that one? And especially his Gal 3:28 statement.

Gal 3:28 question

@Flyoverland22 Paul wrote a personal letter to Timothy (which he was aware the c

@Flyoverland22 Paul wrote a personal letter to Timothy (which he was aware the church would read and benefit from) which exhorts Timothy to remain in Ephesus to stop the teaching of strange doctrines,

@AMalteseSailor Paul wrote 1Tim to exhort Timothy to remain in Ephesus to stop t

@AMalteseSailor Paul wrote 1Tim to exhort Timothy to remain in Ephesus to stop the teaching of “strange” doctrine not to stop someone from teaching the truth. https://t.co/a4moxAR19U

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-18

@sum_of_thy_Word @alhakim120000 Paul's authority comes as he was also an eyewitness of Christ who taught him in the desert after his Damascus encounter. This is not about preaching with authority as Paul himself admits that his speech was 'contemptib...

@sum_of_thy_Word @alhakim120000 Paul's authority comes as he was also an eyewitness of Christ who taught him in the desert after his Damascus encounter. This is not about preaching with authority as P

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-18

@HollandGreig This takes us back to the same letter in 1Cor 6:2-3. Paul says the saints will judge the world and angels. Saints includes both men and women. If we will judge angels, then we ought to be able to judge matters of this life. Thus, "be...

@HollandGreig This takes us back to the same letter in 1Cor 6:2-3. Paul says the saints will judge the world *and angels*. Saints includes both men and women. If we will judge angels, then we ought to

1Cor 6:2-3 general

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-17

@sum_of_thy_Word @alhakim120000 How is man referring only to the elders? Do you

@sum_of_thy_Word @alhakim120000 How is man referring only to the elders? Do you see Paul himself as an elder? And are not the elders part of the church or are they a separate group? 🤔

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-17

@slyoung687 As for 1Cor 14:34-35, let me know if the following helps. It is Paul

@slyoung687 As for 1Cor 14:34-35, let me know if the following helps. It is Paul quoting from the letter from the Corinthians and refuting them (starts referring to their letter in 1Co 7:1 and 1Co 14:

1Co 14:36 1Co 7:1 1Cor 14:34-35 general

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-13

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The early church didn’t segregate participation to smal

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The early church didn’t segregate participation to smaller groups. Allowing the body to minister to the body even in larger settings is the ideal Paul describes in 1Cor 14.

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals My position comes from what the early church did and wh

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals My position comes from what the early church did and what Paul wrote in 1Cor 14 (ie. 1Cor 14:31). Organized religion is not a problem in and of itself. One way preaching week

1Cor 14:31 general

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The instructions that Paul provided is given in 1Cor 14

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The instructions that Paul provided is given in 1Cor 14:31: “For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted.” Does that really sound lik

1Cor 14:31 question

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals This is clearly atypical of Paul spurred on by the urgency to pass on as many details as possible before his journey. It is over a meal in the evening. And the words include discussion and reasoning showing it’s not a one-way...

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals This is clearly atypical of Paul spurred on by the urgency to pass on as many details as possible before his journey. It is over a meal in the evening. And the words include d

Ac 20:9 Ac 17:2 Ac 18:4 general

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The Greek word used is dialegomai (διελέγετο) — often t

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The Greek word used is dialegomai (διελέγετο) — often translated “reasoned,” “discussed,” or “dialogued.” It suggests mutual exchange, not a monologue or sermon (cf. Ac 17:2,

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The text says Paul “began speaking… intending to leave

@ShawnBowie8 @smashbaals The text says Paul “began speaking… intending to leave the next day.” His extended speaking reflects urgency to share as much as possible before departing (Ac 20:7, 11).

Ac 20:7 general

@My_Lord_Grant @smashbaals The issue is related to false doctrines. Paul was no

@My_Lord_Grant @smashbaals The issue is related to false doctrines. Paul was not stopping the truth being taught by anyone.

@My_Lord_Grant @smashbaals Note how that passage is in a personal letter to Timo

@My_Lord_Grant @smashbaals Note how that passage is in a personal letter to Timothy where Paul is explicit that he wants Timothy to stop the teaching of strange doctrines. Why then would he also want

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-11

@oliviakrolczyk_ Paul was not writing a personal letter to Timothy to stop half

@oliviakrolczyk_ Paul was not writing a personal letter to Timothy to stop half of the church or anyone from teaching truth. He was writing to stop the teaching of heresy. You are properly reacting ag

1Ti 2:12 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2025-05-05

@JamesGi27467089 @carol66944 @MikeWingerii God's choice was clearly the apostle

@JamesGi27467089 @carol66944 @MikeWingerii God's choice was clearly the apostle Paul. And all 12 apostles were also Jewish (not a single one was a Gentile). We don't say "explain why no Gentile was co

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua Not always. Andra and aner can both be referring t

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua Not always. Andra and aner can both be referring to people generically depending on the context. Paul uses the generic τις in 1Ti 3:1 which should be a strong hint. https

1Ti 3:1 commentary

@janine_ped86302 @haymes_joshua I see. So are you ignoring what I presented and just moving on to the next point? In Paul’s personal letter to Timothy regarding his appeal to him to remain in Ephesus to stop the spread of strange teachings (1Ti 1:3)...

@janine_ped86302 @haymes_joshua I see. So are you ignoring what I presented and just moving on to the next point? In Paul’s personal letter to Timothy regarding his appeal to him to remain in Ephesus

1Ti 1:3 question

@janine_ped86302 @haymes_joshua Paul is describing character traits. He uses the

@janine_ped86302 @haymes_joshua Paul is describing character traits. He uses the male form as an example not as an exclusive requirement. https://t.co/VI2qbiHyi6

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua The reason Paul uses this language is as an idiom

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua The reason Paul uses this language is as an idiom for both faithful if married and someone who advocates for monogamy. The male form of a phrase or terms is used as the d

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua Paul is not requiring one to be a husband or else he is himself disqualified! And the fact that he advocates for people to be single in 1Co 7 would have to have had a clear note that this makes one disqualified for leade...

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua Paul is not requiring one to be a husband or else he is himself disqualified! And the fact that he advocates for people to be single in 1Co 7 would have to have had a cle

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua The only explicit pronoun in that passage is in v1 and is ‘tis’ which is generic. Why wouldn’t Paul be more explicit and state ‘must not be a female’? Rather, he uses character which any can attain to and not requirement...

@BytePhantom42 @haymes_joshua The only explicit pronoun in that passage is in v1 and is ‘tis’ which is generic. Why wouldn’t Paul be more explicit and state ‘must not be a female’? Rather, he uses cha

@JamesGi27467089 Yes, the Spirit inspired Paul, and it was preserved for the Chu

@JamesGi27467089 Yes, the Spirit inspired Paul, and it was preserved for the Church. But 1 Timothy was written to Timothy—some instructions are clearly specific to him, though we still learn from what

Paul isn’t abstracting gender roles—he’s connecting Eve’s deception to her lack

Paul isn’t abstracting gender roles—he’s connecting Eve’s deception to her lack of experience and mapping that to a specific deceived woman in Ephesus. He doesn’t name her, but uses Eden as a parallel

Since I see Paul addressing a specific situation of a deceived wife teaching heresy and her knowledgeable husband keeping silent, and since Paul links the situation with what happened in Eden connecting creation order with deception, this context str...

Since I see Paul addressing a specific situation of a deceived wife teaching heresy and her knowledgeable husband keeping silent, and since Paul links the situation with what happened in Eden connecti

While it is common for egalitarians to bring the Artemis cult into this situatio

While it is common for egalitarians to bring the Artemis cult into this situation, Paul doesn't make that explicit. I agree with Winger's critique of this point and I don't bring Artemis into my inter

Winger’s lexical defense is weak because: - The word is rare, and his “neutral”

Winger’s lexical defense is weak because: - The word is rare, and his “neutral” example is non-parallel. - Paul uses it in a uniquely cautionary context. - The NT never commends men to authentein. - C

Authentein (the verb form) is extremely rare. Winger cites one example (BGU 1208) as neutral or positive. But one document—especially a private business contract—does not establish how Paul uses the term in a pastoral, theological warning about decep...

Authentein (the verb form) is extremely rare. Winger cites one example (BGU 1208) as neutral or positive. But one document—especially a private business contract—does not establish how Paul uses the t

My view differs from claim 4—I believe Paul wants this woman to stop teaching until she learns the truth. Her being silent is about her not teaching, which Winger would agree with. The difference is Winger sees it as a general rule, not a situation-s...

My view differs from claim 4—I believe Paul wants this woman to stop teaching until she learns the truth. Her being silent is about her not teaching, which Winger would agree with. The difference is W

The grammar and context suggest that Paul is not banning all women from teaching

The grammar and context suggest that Paul is not banning all women from teaching or leading men in every context, but is instead dealing with a specific woman teaching heresy, a situation reminiscent