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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-27

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_

@OnionPizza68693 @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Fair enough, but I submit to my wife’s needs. My wording wasn’t probably the best way to convey that.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@Revelation_14_7 @TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Eric_Conn @StoneChoir Wow, at 8m33s, he says that the wife interfaces to God through the husband just like a dog does through its owner! I’ve often thought complementarians treat wives like ch...

@Revelation_14_7 @TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Eric_Conn @StoneChoir Wow, at 8m33s, he says that the wife interfaces to God through the husband just like a dog does through its owner! I’ve

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@baste_goblin @TomWarlord @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn I don’t believe that what you are describing is God’s created order. What do you call it when a man gets to command and the wife has to obey and whenever there is a difference in op...

@baste_goblin @TomWarlord @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn I don’t believe that what you are describing is God’s created order. What do you call it when a man gets to command and the wife ha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Because the wife subjects to the husband unilaterally. In any disagreement, he always wins. In everything he commands, she must always obey. Scripture doesn’t command this; you are ...

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Because the wife subjects to the husband unilaterally. In any disagreement, he always wins. In everything he commands, she must alwa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@LutheranLifter I am not denying what Scripture plainly says *in context.* Furth

@LutheranLifter I am not denying what Scripture plainly says *in context.* Further, someone who disagrees with your opinions on secondary matters is not an “apostate heretic.” Finally, are you callin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Because some

@TomWarlord @baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Because someone who is married with 4 kids knows he cannot spend all day on X and leave everything to his wife.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Great! Then

@baste_goblin @EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Great! Then you should understand. Do you get to do whatever you want without consideration for your wife and her needs?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-26

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first marriage, I as the husband am the source of my wif...

@MartinMarkLuth1 @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn Both my wife and I are joint leaders of our family. Figuratively as her husband and given that marriage always sources back to its definition in the first

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You guys are pretty funny. You obviously don't know me very well as I extensively deal with those passages. If it were up to me and my wife would allow it, I'd spend even more time explaining them...

@EchoToaster_ @TomWarlord @Revelation_14_7 @Eric_Conn You guys are pretty funny. You obviously don't know me very well as I extensively deal with those passages. If it were up to me and my wife would

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-25

@beherleader Yikes. I treat my wife as an equal and we lead together, and by no

@beherleader Yikes. I treat my wife as an equal and we lead together, and by no means does she "mother" me. https://t.co/vsUEIFzlmE

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-24

@SpecterAndBride And the wife also loves her husband sacrificially since Christ demonstrated how we all love one another. And the husband should respect his wife, because all need respect. What Paul was saying wasn’t one sided, but to deal with spe...

@SpecterAndBride And the wife also loves her husband sacrificially since Christ demonstrated how we all love one another. And the husband should respect his wife, because all need respect. What Paul

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-23

@StothersRyan I’m not reducing the meaning of v22-23, just saying that it cannot be hierarchical if v21 is mutual—and it is. The husband and wife are established by the first marriage where Adam was the source of Eve (she came from his flesh and bon...

@StothersRyan I’m not reducing the meaning of v22-23, just saying that it cannot be hierarchical if v21 is mutual—and it is. The husband and wife are established by the first marriage where Adam was

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-23

Another common argument complementarians give is the role the wife plays to symb

Another common argument complementarians give is the role the wife plays to symbolize the church, and the husband to be like Christ. But aren’t we all to be like Christ? 🧐 https://t.co/CfGz4nbrJA

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-21

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 So curious how you protested translating “a woman” as wif

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 So curious how you protested translating “a woman” as wife in 1Ti 2:12 but here in 1Ti 3:11 when women is on its own you are happy to translate it as wives. I guess it fits your

1Ti 2:12 1Ti 3:11 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-21

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel Whoops. You were referring to 1Ti 3:11 not 1Ti 2:15. I agree with the NASB on 1Ti 3:11 but not 1Ti 2:15. But whether 1Ti 3:11 should be women or wives depends on the context. Ron seems to have a problem with using wife in 1Ti ...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel Whoops. You were referring to 1Ti 3:11 not 1Ti 2:15. I agree with the NASB on 1Ti 3:11 but not 1Ti 2:15. But whether 1Ti 3:11 should be women or wives depends on the context. R

1Ti 2:12 1Ti 2:15 1Ti 3:11 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-20

@TarienCole @TWFtrish @ronhenzel @SimonReye I tend to agree that we don’t know whether Phoebe explained the letter to the Romans because it is not explicitly stated. However, the fact that you admit she is a deaconess is intriguing because 1Ti 3:12 s...

@TarienCole @TWFtrish @ronhenzel @SimonReye I tend to agree that we don’t know whether Phoebe explained the letter to the Romans because it is not explicitly stated. However, the fact that you admit s

1Ti 3:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@PrezdeA @yxm84 @LilaGraceRose I’m contending that it was never God’s intention

@PrezdeA @yxm84 @LilaGraceRose I’m contending that it was never God’s intention for a man to rule over a wife.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@AsherJacob23060 @ronhenzel Except that relational hierarchy was not Paul’s stat

@AsherJacob23060 @ronhenzel Except that relational hierarchy was not Paul’s stated purpose of the letter nor does putting all women under the control of their husbands curtail false teaching unless th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@AsherJacob23060 @ronhenzel This is a good point⎯Paul doesn't say "the law says"

@AsherJacob23060 @ronhenzel This is a good point⎯Paul doesn't say "the law says" or that sort of thing. I believe it is because Paul is providing backup for young single Timothy as he was about to get

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@ronhenzel No, I said it is a specific wife and husband as clarified by the cont

@ronhenzel No, I said it is a specific wife and husband as clarified by the context. So this translation negates it has to do with a generic woman and a generic man.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@ronhenzel Also, I believe that 1Ti 2:12 is actually properly translated: "But I do not allow a wife to teach or 'authentein' her husband, but to remain quiet." It's about a specific wife (the 'the woman' in 1Ti 2:14 and the 'she' in 1Ti 2:15) and he...

@ronhenzel Also, I believe that 1Ti 2:12 is actually properly translated: "But I do not allow a wife to teach or 'authentein' her husband, but to remain quiet." It's about a specific wife (the 'the wo

1Ti 2:12 1Ti 2:14 1Ti 2:15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-17

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel What you think is clear is because it’s the only way you’ve read these passages. If you hadn’t noticed, there are no male pronouns in the Greek of 1 Tim 3:1-13, there’s no “must not be a woman,” the “one wife husband”—whatever ...

@LynnCDell2 @ronhenzel What you think is clear is because it’s the only way you’ve read these passages. If you hadn’t noticed, there are no male pronouns in the Greek of 1 Tim 3:1-13, there’s no “must

1 Tim 3:1-13 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-14

@ABlakeWhite God did not design a man to rule over his wife. How we interpret Gen 1-3 is very important to this discussion. I'm not sure how you understand the creation order in Gen 2, but God was creating animals in front of Adam such that Adam was ...

@ABlakeWhite God did not design a man to rule over his wife. How we interpret Gen 1-3 is very important to this discussion. I'm not sure how you understand the creation order in Gen 2, but God was cre

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-13

@JohnPaulLeeDe @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC I love it when people give me the mental gymnastics trope. It’s not an argument but an attempt to discredit me. Come on—is that all you got? How do you make sense of Paul’s grammar? The “man” in v12 is in t...

@JohnPaulLeeDe @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC I love it when people give me the mental gymnastics trope. It’s not an argument but an attempt to discredit me. Come on—is that all you got? How do you make

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-13

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Kephale can mean “head” or “source/origin.” In this context, it is clear that it means origin since the husband and wife relationship is grounded in Adam and Eve’s relation...

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning Kephale can mean “head” or “source/origin.” In this context, it is clear that it means origin since the husband and wife r

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-11

@abbymcculla @jakerattlesnk @whatever Both my wife and I have careers and we have 3 kids and we didn't use childcare. So whatever is being referred to in the initial post is not required for women to have choice. Then there's this quoting of 1 Tim 2...

@abbymcculla @jakerattlesnk @whatever Both my wife and I have careers and we have 3 kids and we didn't use childcare. So whatever is being referred to in the initial post is not required for women to

1 Tim 2:13-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@lyn_kidson @JollyStine @ronhenzel Do we need Augustine when we have 1 Cor 7? 1 Cor 7:3-5 “The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the...

@lyn_kidson @JollyStine @ronhenzel Do we need Augustine when we have 1 Cor 7? 1 Cor 7:3-5 “The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife

1 Cor 7:3-5 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@DaxEverts @Ashwin_Vengayil @TBush1689 @pastherandie @TimothyMHurst @Doctrinesof

@DaxEverts @Ashwin_Vengayil @TBush1689 @pastherandie @TimothyMHurst @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii In that construction it has to do with marriage, ie. "one wife husband"⎯what is a one woman single man

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@DaxEverts @TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii What authority does my pastor have over me that isn't already a command written in the Bible? Can he command me when to sit and stand? How much to give?...

@DaxEverts @TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii What authority does my pastor have over me that isn't already a command written in the Bible? Can he c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@MBurtwrites @ronhenzel Yes, it would be rather straightforward to say something

@MBurtwrites @ronhenzel Yes, it would be rather straightforward to say something like "it is forbidden" or something like this. I see Paul giving Timothy his authority to assist with the rather diffic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TimothyMHurst @pastherandie @TBush1689 @Ashwin_Vengayil @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii This is not correct. It doesn't even say "If any man desires to be an overseer..." It says "if anyone/someone desires to be an overseer." There are not ...

@TimothyMHurst @pastherandie @TBush1689 @Ashwin_Vengayil @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii This is not correct. It doesn't even say "If any man desires to be an overseer..." It says "if anyone/

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@pastherandie @TimothyMHurst @TBush1689 @Ashwin_Vengayil @DaxEverts @Doctrinesof

@pastherandie @TimothyMHurst @TBush1689 @Ashwin_Vengayil @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii 1 Tim 5:9 has it in the reverse, "one husband wife" or ἑνὸς ἀνδρὸς γυνή.

1 Tim 5:9 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TimothyMHurst @TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii Yes, the term "one wife husband" and the corollary "one husband wife" in 1 Tim 5:9 are both intended to mean "faithful, if married" or "faithful to one'...

@TimothyMHurst @TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii Yes, the term "one wife husband" and the corollary "one husband wife" in 1 Tim 5:9 are both intended t

1 Tim 5:9 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Where is "role" in scripture exactly? I'm not referring to mother/father differences. When it comes to leadership, since God said to both that they should rule in ...

@TheWatchman1963 @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Where is "role" in scripture exactly? I'm not referring to mother/father differences. When it comes to leadership

Gen 1:28 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii On basis do you conclude this? Surely you are not referring to 1 Tim 3:1–13, which has no male pronouns, nowhere, says “must not be a woman”, and even s...

@TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii On basis do you conclude this? Surely you are not referring to 1 Tim 3:1–13, which has no male pronoun

1 Tim 3:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii This is a particularly sticky situation. Timothy is being asked by Paul to intervene to stop a wife from teaching false auction when her husband who is ...

@TBush1689 @pastherandie @Ashwin_Vengayil @TimothyMHurst @DaxEverts @DoctrinesofRad @MikeWingerii This is a particularly sticky situation. Timothy is being asked by Paul to intervene to stop a wife fr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@stablecross @ronhenzel The details matter and considering all the details is not "overthinking it." But you are correct, no one should be teaching false doctrine, male or female. You are also correct⎯a wife being allowed to teach means she is on th...

@stablecross @ronhenzel The details matter and considering all the details is not "overthinking it." But you are correct, no one should be teaching false doctrine, male or female. You are also correc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@KimberleeJayneW @will_servant Yes, the ground was cursed, not Adam. There's a difference. Also notice, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife..." Adam was right there. He heard her speaking to the Serpent and her repeating of the com...

@KimberleeJayneW @will_servant Yes, the ground was cursed, not Adam. There's a difference. Also notice, "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife..." Adam was right there. He heard her sp

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@stablecross @ronhenzel The issue is that her husband is not deceived and knows better but is not doing anything about his unsaved wife teaching false doctrine to the church. This would have been a very difficult situation for the young single Timoth...

@stablecross @ronhenzel The issue is that her husband is not deceived and knows better but is not doing anything about his unsaved wife teaching false doctrine to the church. This would have been a ve

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-09

@KimberleeJayneW @will_servant Who is saying that a man has to be the woman of the house? You are presuming your view in how you frame your response. We aren’t saying men are women, but there is significant overlap in our responsibilities. Both my w...

@KimberleeJayneW @will_servant Who is saying that a man has to be the woman of the house? You are presuming your view in how you frame your response. We aren’t saying men are women, but there is sign

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@DodgeDeepState @_nomadic_soul If you don’t believe what I wrote, that’s great! But many do. The husband should act like Christ, and lay down his life for his wife like Christ did for his bride. The wife should act like Christ, and lay down her lif...

@DodgeDeepState @_nomadic_soul If you don’t believe what I wrote, that’s great! But many do. The husband should act like Christ, and lay down his life for his wife like Christ did for his bride. The

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@DodgeDeepState @_nomadic_soul Christ is God, the church are humans. When someon

@DodgeDeepState @_nomadic_soul Christ is God, the church are humans. When someone thinks that the husband represents Christ and has sole authority over his wife who represents the church, this is a ve

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@DodgeDeepState @_nomadic_soul I have a pastor friend who said something similar

@DodgeDeepState @_nomadic_soul I have a pastor friend who said something similar—that the husband is uniquely to emulate Christ, and the wife, the church. But Phil 2:3-8 is not only for males! https:/

Phil 2:3-8 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@VoicesHead100 @ScottCross_8 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning No, Paul writes a personal letter to Timothy to deal with “certain people” with the understanding that those who are ignorant and deceived “receive mercy.” So in a wa...

@VoicesHead100 @ScottCross_8 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning No, Paul writes a personal letter to Timothy to deal with “certain people” with the understanding that those who are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@VoicesHead100 @ScottCross_8 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning By gendered roles I mean only males can occupy leadership and teaching roles over the whole congregation and the husband has to be the authority over his wife. Those ...

@VoicesHead100 @ScottCross_8 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning By gendered roles I mean only males can occupy leadership and teaching roles over the whole congregation and the hus

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@carlaskaufel I would agree that marriage is *not* about authority, but if the wife is the only one who submits, then that is the very definition of a hierarchy of authority, is it not? A husband loving and giving himself up is great. Is this not so...

@carlaskaufel I would agree that marriage is *not* about authority, but if the wife is the only one who submits, then that is the very definition of a hierarchy of authority, is it not? A husband lov

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@katsandhearts @ryancduff @TheMuppetPastor Right! Nowhere is a husband told to “

@katsandhearts @ryancduff @TheMuppetPastor Right! Nowhere is a husband told to “exercise authority over” his wife.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Because…just because Paul doesn’t say the same thing to both male and female doesn’t mean that it isn’t reciprocal. For instance, it is said that the husband is to lov...

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Because…just because Paul doesn’t say the same thing to both male and female doesn’t mean that it isn’t reciprocal. F

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronnin

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning If Paul tells a husband to love does it mean a wife is to hate? Think about this more carefully…chew the cud

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Kind of an interesting mistake huh? So if we all subject ourselves to one another then whatever v22 means it cannot be hierarchy between the husband and wife since v21...

@kgaugelo_N @VoicesHead100 @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Kind of an interesting mistake huh? So if we all subject ourselves to one another then whatever v22 means it cannot b

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