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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@RobertZ60423932 @NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt Plain English? But it’s Greek. Further, it cannot mean “must be married” (Paul himself wasn’t married), and this doesn’t say “must not be a woman”. Given no male pronouns are used in this passage a...

@RobertZ60423932 @NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt Plain English? But it’s Greek. Further, it cannot mean “must be married” (Paul himself wasn’t married), and this doesn’t say “must not be a woman”.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@BogdanOancea77 Oh, I looked at the Greek behind the YLT and they do have the ge

@BogdanOancea77 Oh, I looked at the Greek behind the YLT and they do have the genitive here. The NKJV also has it, so seems this is in the received text, but it's not in the majority text (ie. NASB).

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@BogdanOancea77 Again, I don't believe Paul is constrained ONLY to answer questions. He is correcting their misunderstandings and statements. I don't see "your women" in v34, but "the women" (nominative, not genitive as I think would be used for "y...

@BogdanOancea77 Again, I don't believe Paul is constrained ONLY to answer questions. He is correcting their misunderstandings and statements. I don't see "your women" in v34, but "the women" (nomina

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Paul seems to be picking out statements they make and is not answering questions most of the time. The word in 7:1 is "matters" not "questions". The quote in 7:1 is "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations wit...

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Paul seems to be picking out statements they make and is not answering questions most of the time. The word in 7:1 is "matters" not "questions". The quote in 7:1 is "It

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Oh! We also have the ἢ used in an interrogative i

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Oh! We also have the ἢ used in an interrogative in 1 Cor 1:13 after "Was Paul crucified for you?" So Paul uses the ἢ in a very similar way earlier in the same letter gi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf The ἢ in v36 is followed by two rhetorical questions which are obviously not true. Verses 34-35 don't contain a question (Paul is often just commenting on things they wrote), but they say things that contradict other th...

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf The ἢ in v36 is followed by two rhetorical questions which are obviously not true. Verses 34-35 don't contain a question (Paul is often just commenting on things they wr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@ekkiet @ChrisHohnholz Ugh...I just spent 20 minutes answering this and the response disappeared! Ok, one more time...going to copy it elsewhere just in case! Ok, you are missing some things here which prove that "the woman" in v14 cannot refer to ...

@ekkiet @ChrisHohnholz Ugh...I just spent 20 minutes answering this and the response disappeared! Ok, one more time...going to copy it elsewhere just in case! Ok, you are missing some things here wh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @TomBuck "Another spirit is working in you"⎯people said this to Jesus too. You should really avoid going here just because we disagree on a secondary matter. Please define for me what "husband/wife distinction" means to you? Sarah resp...

@uncledando @TomBuck "Another spirit is working in you"⎯people said this to Jesus too. You should really avoid going here just because we disagree on a secondary matter. Please define for me what "h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck So where does that leave single women? I have a feeling we have a totally different idea of what leading means. Both the husband and the wife lead in different ways and different times. It is a mutual leadersh...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck So where does that leave single women? I have a feeling we have a totally different idea of what leading means. Both the husband and the wife lead in different

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Men and women both form the bride of Christ. Just like Adam was the origin of Eve (she came from his flesh and bone), so also the Christ is the origin of the church (our life comes from Him). Jesus is said to r...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Men and women both form the bride of Christ. Just like Adam was the origin of Eve (she came from his flesh and bone), so also the Christ is the origin of the chu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @TomBuck Well, surely it's at least self aware. Perhaps you are suggesting the transgender community is trying to end any distinction in male/female. Granted. But also you didn't define what you meant by "husband/wife distinction" ⎯ I ...

@uncledando @TomBuck Well, surely it's at least self aware. Perhaps you are suggesting the transgender community is trying to end any distinction in male/female. Granted. But also you didn't define

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@AJG797 @TomBuck I understand the importance of Paul's reference to this prototypical couple in this personal letter to Timothy as he writes of a situation which is known to both himself and Timothy. Men are deceived all the time. But why was Adam ...

@AJG797 @TomBuck I understand the importance of Paul's reference to this prototypical couple in this personal letter to Timothy as he writes of a situation which is known to both himself and Timothy.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@uncledando @TomBuck I don't think anyone is trying to end "husband/wife distinc

@uncledando @TomBuck I don't think anyone is trying to end "husband/wife distinction" just saying there are no gender-based roles of one gender ruling over the other gender...at least, not amongst bel

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@AJG797 @TomBuck Yes, God gave "man" dominion, the "male and female" man (aka mankind). True, most people are not gifted to properly handle authority, but it has nothing to do with one's gender or how much muscle they have...or how angry they can ge...

@AJG797 @TomBuck Yes, God gave "man" dominion, the "male and female" man (aka mankind). True, most people are not gifted to properly handle authority, but it has nothing to do with one's gender or ho

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-08

@Capt_Jack_Hayes @theophysicus @William_E_Wolfe @TomBuck Don't be fooled into thinking all Canadians are aligned with Trudeau and his philosophy. For example, our church is breaking away from the RCA (Reformed Church in America) because the American...

@Capt_Jack_Hayes @theophysicus @William_E_Wolfe @TomBuck Don't be fooled into thinking all Canadians are aligned with Trudeau and his philosophy. For example, our church is breaking away from the RCA

@RobertZ60423932 @NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt Plain English? But it’s Greek. Further, it cannot mean “must be married” (Paul himself wasn’t married), and this doesn’t say “must not be a woman”. Given no male pronouns are used in this passage a...

@BogdanOancea77 Oh, I looked at the Greek behind the YLT and they do have the ge

@BogdanOancea77 Again, I don't believe Paul is constrained ONLY to answer questions. He is correcting their misunderstandings and statements. I don't see "your women" in v34, but "the women" (nominative, not genitive as I think would be used for "y...

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Paul seems to be picking out statements they make and is not answering questions most of the time. The word in 7:1 is "matters" not "questions". The quote in 7:1 is "It is good for a man not to have sexual relations wit...

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Oh! We also have the ἢ used in an interrogative i

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf The ἢ in v36 is followed by two rhetorical questions which are obviously not true. Verses 34-35 don't contain a question (Paul is often just commenting on things they wrote), but they say things that contradict other th...

@ekkiet @ChrisHohnholz Ugh...I just spent 20 minutes answering this and the response disappeared! Ok, one more time...going to copy it elsewhere just in case! Ok, you are missing some things here which prove that "the woman" in v14 cannot refer to ...

@uncledando @TomBuck "Another spirit is working in you"⎯people said this to Jesus too. You should really avoid going here just because we disagree on a secondary matter. Please define for me what "husband/wife distinction" means to you? Sarah resp...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck So where does that leave single women? I have a feeling we have a totally different idea of what leading means. Both the husband and the wife lead in different ways and different times. It is a mutual leadersh...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Men and women both form the bride of Christ. Just like Adam was the origin of Eve (she came from his flesh and bone), so also the Christ is the origin of the church (our life comes from Him). Jesus is said to r...

@uncledando @TomBuck Well, surely it's at least self aware. Perhaps you are suggesting the transgender community is trying to end any distinction in male/female. Granted. But also you didn't define what you meant by "husband/wife distinction" ⎯ I ...

@AJG797 @TomBuck I understand the importance of Paul's reference to this prototypical couple in this personal letter to Timothy as he writes of a situation which is known to both himself and Timothy. Men are deceived all the time. But why was Adam ...

@uncledando @TomBuck I don't think anyone is trying to end "husband/wife distinc

@AJG797 @TomBuck Yes, God gave "man" dominion, the "male and female" man (aka mankind). True, most people are not gifted to properly handle authority, but it has nothing to do with one's gender or how much muscle they have...or how angry they can ge...

@Capt_Jack_Hayes @theophysicus @William_E_Wolfe @TomBuck Don't be fooled into thinking all Canadians are aligned with Trudeau and his philosophy. For example, our church is breaking away from the RCA (Reformed Church in America) because the American...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck I’m simply looking at the text and taking it for what it is: a prophecy from God to the woman about what will happen as a consequence of the fall. If you understand head as “source” or “origin” the church origin...

@ekkiet @ChrisHohnholz That’s correct. The idea being that she is deceived and so Paul is preserving her dignity until Timothy has a chance to deal with her. It’s a personal letter from Paul to Timothy so Timothy would know. This interpretation ma...

@The_Idol_Killer All false teaching has some impact and every church has some. No one is perfect. It’s important to also not isolate yourself thinking you’ve got everything perfect too. The key is to be open to hearing rebuttals and not be divisiv...

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Without the limitation of having men rule

@uncledando @ChristChurchTe1 @TomBuck Why would you say that? I don’t “hate God

@rightresponsem I think your view is one of many that complementarians have to navigate as the Bible doesn’t give guidance and when, where and how a woman can teach, what to do if men are present, how an overseer oversees without violating these rule...

@ChristChurchTe1 @uncledando @TomBuck Consequence of the fall. Not God’s origin

@TomBuck Amen to that! Best thing we could do is show people how to rightly div

@anahnemoo @William_E_Wolfe This is divisive!! Since when is allowing women to preach true doctrine or lead based on God’s gifting a gospel issue?! In some ways it is because of Gal 3:28 and you can be certain women were saved just like men in the ...

@William_E_Wolfe I think it is definitely a red flag. 🚩 But this is a secondar

@STRtweets Greg, I did a deep dive on this one. I think scripture gives us the

@William_E_Wolfe Looks like patriarchal detox

RT @ryanschatz: @TomBuck Gal 3:26-28 shows that there is a change for those in t

@TomBuck Gal 3:26-28 shows that there is a change for those in the church (in Ch

@TheLone73479323 @RenOfMen @ZacharyGarris @jerr_rrej To say that it is worshippi

@RenOfMen @ZacharyGarris You are right that it is dangerous to say that you don't like what the Bible says and then come up with your own way. But what if we've been reading these passages on women wrong in the first place and one can be faithful to...

@TetzlaffJoshua @jhillky2 @NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt What if Paul is quoting from the letter from the Corinthians (which he did frequently in 1 Corinthians (he indicates this in 1 Cor 7:1)? What if this is not a law of God but one that contrad...

@BogdanOancea77 @Hansronsdorf Hans may have a different viewpoint, but I would think there was some disagreement. There's a quote something like this: "You put three Jews in a room you get four opinions." At any rate, Paul refers to Judiazers that ...

@reformedrandy @thatssocheeky @lagracelaverite Take another look. Here's a cons

@reformedrandy @thatssocheeky @lagracelaverite Maybe you need to take another lo

@NiceNeanderthal @Red_Beard_1Sgt There's a specific woman that Paul is referring

@RealBrysonGray People are missing what Paul is doing in 1 Cor 14... https://t.c

@drbrudd It appears from what I've read of your views that you believe that 1 Co

@ChrisHohnholz Except 1 Tim 2:11 says "a woman" not "women" and verse 15 says "she (singular) will be saved through the (definite) childbearing (noun) if they (the wife and husband that Paul was referring to)". One would expect verse 14 to say "but ...

@ChrisHohnholz You make good points here. And clearly men can be deceived and women can rebel against what they know. However, there is no evidence of authority or leadership in the original creation. Yes, God's sovereign will was to create the ma...

@rightresponsem @ChrisHohnholz Paul links the order of first creation with deception. Males can clearly be deceived too, so this isn't a comment about gender differences but relates to the specific creation order of Adam and Eve. Because Adam was c...

@Hansronsdorf @BogdanOancea77 The problem with this view is that vv34-35 are in every manuscript. They also fit well before verse 36 which uses the disjunctive “what?” And asks rhetorical questions to show that those who wrote the things in vv34-35 ...

@RebelDissent @KaeleyT @William_E_Wolfe Where is this law that silences women in

@nicole_keir @William_E_Wolfe The problem with this view is that vv34-35 are in every manuscript. They also fit well before verse 36 which uses the disjunctive “what?” And asks rhetorical questions to show that those who wrote the things in vv34-35 ...

@Wbtesq @William_E_Wolfe Just because some misuse, take texts out of context and

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@William_E_Wolfe This all seems to hinge on what this law is and where it comes

@ronhenzel I get what you are saying...but sometimes a church is "lifeless" beca

@laurchas22 This is abuse. An elder should sit down with this man and tell him that how he is shaming the congregation is not good. What if a single mom who catches the bus is late because the bus was late? Surely there must be acceptable reasons ...

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