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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ronhenzel This is all fine and dandy, Ron. But to understand what Paul means an

@ronhenzel This is all fine and dandy, Ron. But to understand what Paul means and who 'a woman' and 'a man' refers to, and what Paul intends by choosing such a rare word, authentein, we have to look t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-12 is about a specific woman appears to be the ext...

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-

1Ti 2:11-12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@MythosMayhem @ronhenzel Why then does Paul choose such a rare verb like authent

@MythosMayhem @ronhenzel Why then does Paul choose such a rare verb like authentein when he simply means authority?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over” type of authority? Isn’t there a common term for...

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over

1Ti 3:2 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-19

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning that Paul had, we don't see that this passage for...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Paul use such a rare word for this when commonly und...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Pa

1T 2:2 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-18

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is speaking about a specific woman because of the articl...

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is spe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Whoops... haha. Sorry, read too fast. 1Ti 2:12 doesn't say "must not be a woman" but "I do not permit a woman to teach or authentein a man." Paul doesn't mean a woman cannot teach truth to a man as a Bere...

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Whoops... haha. Sorry, read too fast. 1Ti 2:12 doesn't say "must not be a woman" but "I do not permit a woman to teach or authentein a man." Paul doesn't

1Ti 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@cuelove2u @OperHealAmerica What does it mean to you to have authority over men?

@cuelove2u @OperHealAmerica What does it mean to you to have authority over men? Do you think that a man can have "authentein" (the unique word translated "exercise authority" in 1Ti 2:12) over anyone

1Ti 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@ronhenzel @trapatonzi @UGOOTWEETS I agree with you that the genitive of aner is with respect to authentein and not gyne in 1Ti 2:12. Now that I have my facts straight 😅, everything is in order because the context gives us the clues required to under...

@ronhenzel @trapatonzi @UGOOTWEETS I agree with you that the genitive of aner is with respect to authentein and not gyne in 1Ti 2:12. Now that I have my facts straight 😅, everything is in order becaus

1Ti 2:12 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@ronhenzel I'm not in way over my head, but you are correct that my suggestion was a mistake. I appreciate your pointing out that the genitive in this case as the object of authentein (which we know is for sure) cannot then also be applied in a subje...

@ronhenzel I'm not in way over my head, but you are correct that my suggestion was a mistake. I appreciate your pointing out that the genitive in this case as the object of authentein (which we know i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-19

@ronhenzel Also, I believe that 1Ti 2:12 is actually properly translated: "But I do not allow a wife to teach or 'authentein' her husband, but to remain quiet." It's about a specific wife (the 'the woman' in 1Ti 2:14 and the 'she' in 1Ti 2:15) and he...

@ronhenzel Also, I believe that 1Ti 2:12 is actually properly translated: "But I do not allow a wife to teach or 'authentein' her husband, but to remain quiet." It's about a specific wife (the 'the wo

1Ti 2:12 1Ti 2:14 1Ti 2:15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-13

@JohnPaulLeeDe @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC I love it when people give me the mental gymnastics trope. It’s not an argument but an attempt to discredit me. Come on—is that all you got? How do you make sense of Paul’s grammar? The “man” in v12 is in t...

@JohnPaulLeeDe @BasedTorba @AmandaTylerBJC I love it when people give me the mental gymnastics trope. It’s not an argument but an attempt to discredit me. Come on—is that all you got? How do you make

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-10

@JollyStine @ronhenzel Mike Winger spent 4 hours in his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video on authentein but he threw out the idea that Paul may have been reaching back to an older Attic word to more accurately convey the meaning he needed for this situation. This ...

@JollyStine @ronhenzel Mike Winger spent 4 hours in his 1 Tim 2:11-15 video on authentein but he threw out the idea that Paul may have been reaching back to an older Attic word to more accurately conv

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-08

@1stprinciplesch @TheMuppetPastor That’s an intriguing answer! So you believe th

@1stprinciplesch @TheMuppetPastor That’s an intriguing answer! So you believe that no one—not just women⎯should authentein anyone, male or female, is that right?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-03

@DavidMa24927513 @smashbaals 1. Why didn't Paul use the usual word for authority? Can a man authentein over anyone? 2. Don't all students learn in silence? "Let a woman..." 3. Why did Paul use the singular? 4. Who is "the woman" in v14? 5. "She (sing...

@DavidMa24927513 @smashbaals 1. Why didn't Paul use the usual word for authority? Can a man authentein over anyone? 2. Don't all students learn in silence? "Let a woman..." 3. Why did Paul use the sin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-16

@TheMuppetPastor The word “authentein” is certainly important in this context but I argue it cannot mean ordinary authority as Paul uses other words for this, both in 1 Tim 2:2 and elsewhere. Paul picks a completely unique word which we have no evid...

@TheMuppetPastor The word “authentein” is certainly important in this context but I argue it cannot mean ordinary authority as Paul uses other words for this, both in 1 Tim 2:2 and elsewhere. Paul pi

1 Tim 2:2 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-01-02

@MarkGrote @Peacemaker811 @HbitsO @BethMooreLPM This assumes authentein means “usurp authority”—are men allowed to do that but women are not? Men are allowed hostile takeovers inspired by geneologies and false understanding of the law? Paul wasn’t ...

@MarkGrote @Peacemaker811 @HbitsO @BethMooreLPM This assumes authentein means “usurp authority”—are men allowed to do that but women are not? Men are allowed hostile takeovers inspired by geneologies

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-22

RT @ryanschatz: @MikeWingerii @j_bambrick As for “I do not permit” being tempora

RT @ryanschatz: @MikeWingerii @j_bambrick As for “I do not permit” being temporary or universal and the nature of authentein being positive…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-22

@MikeWingerii @j_bambrick As for “I do not permit” being temporary or universal and the nature of authentein being positive because teaching can only be positive, Mike missed the forest for the trees. As Mike clearly proclaimed after his 4.5 hour di...

@MikeWingerii @j_bambrick As for “I do not permit” being temporary or universal and the nature of authentein being positive because teaching can only be positive, Mike missed the forest for the trees.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-04

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'authentein' a man/husband"⎯what this is referring to ...

@OrinRomine @ryancduff It doesn't say "women (plural) must not teach men (plural)" nor does it say "a woman (singular) must not teach men (plural)"⎯it says clearly "a woman/wife must not teach or 'aut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-27

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Also, it appears you didn't read my post that I linked when discussing about why I conclude the way I do on authentein being about murder. Here is the quote: "The accuracy of the NTS articles of G...

@SimonReye @hashim_warren @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii Also, it appears you didn't read my post that I linked when discussing about why I conclude the way I do on authentein being about murder. Here is

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-26

@SimonReye @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren The verb αὐθεντεῖν (authentein) that Paul used is used only this once in the New Testament (called a hapax logomenon) and was rarely used outside of the Bible. Linda Belleville did an exhaustive se...

@SimonReye @Duke456521 @MikeWingerii @hashim_warren The verb αὐθεντεῖν (authentein) that Paul used is used only this once in the New Testament (called a hapax logomenon) and was rarely used outside of

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-11-20

@DougGroothuis “Thus, Paul does not bar women from ministries that involve teaching and/or having authority over men (whether locally or universally). Rather, when Paul says that a woman must neither teach nor authentein a man, **he has in mind what ...

@DougGroothuis “Thus, Paul does not bar women from ministries that involve teaching and/or having authority over men (whether locally or universally). Rather, when Paul says that a woman must neither

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-10-03

@David_Fairchild @JollyStine @CovenantReform2 @ScottRagan @haymes_joshua Take a look at the following summary. Its hard to summarize succinctly, but I gave it my best shot. At the end, there’s a link where you will find a thread with much more deta...

@David_Fairchild @JollyStine @CovenantReform2 @ScottRagan @haymes_joshua Take a look at the following summary. Its hard to summarize succinctly, but I gave it my best shot. At the end, there’s a lin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-24

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals I agree Paul is saying that a woman, a specific deceived woman, is not to “authentein” over a man, her husband. Paul uses Adam and Eve as prototypes of this couple in Ephesus. The husband ...

@Based_Byzantine @HabitualLinest @Booksbyjess__ @smashbaals I agree Paul is saying that a woman, a specific deceived woman, is not to “authentein” over a man, her husband. Paul uses Adam and Eve as p

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-12

@aleciajonesnow @fat_brownie @goteamcarr The vast majority of those who go to seminary don't know what this means: "Where two or three are gathered, there I am in their midst." No one is said to "authentein" anyone. Is a man supposed to be an autho...

@aleciajonesnow @fat_brownie @goteamcarr The vast majority of those who go to seminary don't know what this means: "Where two or three are gathered, there I am in their midst." No one is said to "aut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-11

@fat_brownie @aleciajonesnow @goteamcarr Here’s the details from Belleville on a

@fat_brownie @aleciajonesnow @goteamcarr Here’s the details from Belleville on authentein. https://t.co/bm2qJCK0P8

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-11

@DickSaban1 @AlamoRememberer @RGIII There’s a few that have the same take but not many that put it all together this way. So I could quote commentaries for specific points but not one that gets it all…at least not one I know of yet. I quote Bellevi...

@DickSaban1 @AlamoRememberer @RGIII There’s a few that have the same take but not many that put it all together this way. So I could quote commentaries for specific points but not one that gets it al

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-10

@TakTik227f1 @droolycat @KaitlynSchiess 1 Tim 2:12⎯Paul is addressing a specific deceived woman who was teaching false doctrine. He left Timothy behind in Ephesus to correct situations like this. "The man" is not in the definite here, it is "a man"...

@TakTik227f1 @droolycat @KaitlynSchiess 1 Tim 2:12⎯Paul is addressing a specific deceived woman who was teaching false doctrine. He left Timothy behind in Ephesus to correct situations like this. "T

1 Tim 2:12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-09-10

@JBenSimpson @DuletzkeMelanie @pastordmack Not even men are supposed to exercise

@JBenSimpson @DuletzkeMelanie @pastordmack Not even men are supposed to exercise 'authentein' over anyone. If the great commission applies to everyone, any believer can disciple anyone, male or femal

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-31

@kimberley_7_ @GillesPaling @BogdanOancea77 I don’t believe the Biblical text—when carefully considered—teaches there are gender restrictions on leadership. I’m also questioning what is meant by “authority over men.” The word used in 1 Tim 2 is aut...

@kimberley_7_ @GillesPaling @BogdanOancea77 I don’t believe the Biblical text—when carefully considered—teaches there are gender restrictions on leadership. I’m also questioning what is meant by “aut

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-25

@pauldirks @KaeleyT As you can see in my post, I said “no one is said to ‘authentein’ anyone”—that word is only used once and not used positively in scripture. The details I provided from Belleville are very convincing about the meaning of Authentei...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT As you can see in my post, I said “no one is said to ‘authentein’ anyone”—that word is only used once and not used positively in scripture. The details I provided from Belleville

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-08-18

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I appreciate your distancing yourself from some patriarchalists. I don’t believe biblically that anyone is to have “authentein” over anyone, so the statement in 1 Tim 2:11-12 has a specific understanding in the context of somethi...

@pauldirks @KaeleyT I appreciate your distancing yourself from some patriarchalists. I don’t believe biblically that anyone is to have “authentein” over anyone, so the statement in 1 Tim 2:11-12 has

1 Tim 2:11-12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authen

@MikeWingerii @kamkorderx @jones_shaun Belleville’s excellent research on Authentein is critical to this discussion. https://t.co/q2RauE3Gfv

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-21

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical probl

@MikeWingerii Although Belleville’s analysis of authentein and the lexical problems with BDAG is sound, her interpretation of verse 12 still doesn’t make sense. For another view that I think works se

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-12

@jenniferfox88 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, everyone says this is clear, but no one seems to be able to explain all the details of this passage. - Why is Paul using singular instead of plural if his instruction applies to all women? Or is it only a married...

@jenniferfox88 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, everyone says this is clear, but no one seems to be able to explain all the details of this passage. - Why is Paul using singular instead of plural if his instruct

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@GCRiffey @DennyBurk I see. So women can teach but men (and their older male ch

@GCRiffey @DennyBurk I see. So women can teach but men (and their older male children) cannot be in their presence when doing so? Women can counsel but God thinks men shouldn’t learn from women? Al

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-12

RT @NijayKGupta: On AUTHENTEIN, I am a professional Bible translator, I have wri

RT @NijayKGupta: On AUTHENTEIN, I am a professional Bible translator, I have written about this in TELL HER STORY, I have looked up all the…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-11

@MikeWingerii @116nathanwalker 3/ Belleville’s article showing the bias in the l

@MikeWingerii @116nathanwalker 3/ Belleville’s article showing the bias in the lexical evidence and a strong case for a negative application of authentein is very strong. So can a man authentein anot

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-11

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where is a man said to authentein over a

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where is a man said to authentein over anyone? Have you read Belleville’s paper showing how this is almost certainly a term with a strong negative connotation?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-11

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where does Paul ever say that a man is to have “authentein” over anyone? Why does he use this rare word? The context is to stop FALSE teachers, not women. He highlights that there are ignorant and not ignora...

@davbach823 @cpcwesterville @RickWarren Where does Paul ever say that a man is to have “authentein” over anyone? Why does he use this rare word? The context is to stop FALSE teachers, not women. He

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@HwsEleutheroi Not defending Warren’s exegesis, but how is it that authentein is not used to state how men can positively have authority? Why would Paul choose this unique word? And did you not see “Women LIKEWISE…” in 1 Tim 3:11? This word means “...

@HwsEleutheroi Not defending Warren’s exegesis, but how is it that authentein is not used to state how men can positively have authority? Why would Paul choose this unique word? And did you not see “

1 Tim 3:11 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-10

@MikeWingerii I don’t think Rick is big on exegesis. However, Belleville has done an excellent job in “Lexical Fallacies in Rendering authentein in 1 Timothy 2:12: BDAG in Light of Greek Literary and Nonliterary Usage.” Also, Paul has other words h...

@MikeWingerii I don’t think Rick is big on exegesis. However, Belleville has done an excellent job in “Lexical Fallacies in Rendering authentein in 1 Timothy 2:12: BDAG in Light of Greek Literary and

1 Timothy 2:12 debate
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