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@JosephGeis92207 @Protestia Ok, I would agree if you mean this person (male or f

@JosephGeis92207 @Protestia Ok, I would agree if you mean this person (male or female) should not be teaching heresy like this. Most see it as speaking about all women not allowed to pastor.

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 BTW, 1Cor 11:3’s ordering is Christ-> every man, the man->a woman, God->Christ. This is in time sequence order and showing source relationships. As for head coverings, covering in Genesis was ...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 BTW, 1Cor 11:3’s ordering is Christ-> every man, the man->a woman, God->Christ. This is in time sequence order and showing source relationships

1Cor 11:3 general

of 11:1-16 1Co 11:3 debate

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 1Co 11:3 is probably the strongest evidence for head meaning source especially in the context of 11:1-16. Paul is talking about source relationships and interdependence not gender hierarchy. Further, he...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 1Co 11:3 is probably the strongest evidence for head meaning source especially in the context of 11:1-16. Paul is talking about source relationships and

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 That verse literally says “He is

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 That verse literally says “He is the ἀρχή” —which is source or beginning/origin. There we see the concept of preeminence or prominence. I still don’t s

@mtnman22x @ItsRiverShane @rankheresy He's giving Timothy his opinion here because Timothy is a young, single guy who will likely be correcting a man's wife's heresy when the husband wasn't doing anything. But it may be a sticky situation. And you ar...

@mtnman22x @ItsRiverShane @rankheresy He's giving Timothy his opinion here because Timothy is a young, single guy who will likely be correcting a man's wife's heresy when the husband wasn't doing anyt

@SchulMozart That's King James English. And Paul isn't stopping a woman from teaching truth to a man. His point in his letter to Timothy was that he wanted him to remain in Ephesus to instruct certain people to stop teaching strange doctrines. A woma...

@SchulMozart That's King James English. And Paul isn't stopping a woman from teaching truth to a man. His point in his letter to Timothy was that he wanted him to remain in Ephesus to instruct certain

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 And there's the thing⎯head is a very versatile word. Paul is not using it in the sense of authority, but origins in relationship. Adam is the head of Eve because she was made from him. Christ is the hea...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 And there's the thing⎯head is a very versatile word. Paul is not using it in the sense of authority, but origins in relationship. Adam is the head of Ev

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Well all we see from 2:13-14 is Paul is tying the time sequence order of creation to why one was deceived and the other wasn't. Going back to Gen 2, we can see how God creates Adam, puts him in the gard...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Well all we see from 2:13-14 is Paul is tying the time sequence order of creation to why one was deceived and the other wasn't. Going back to Gen 2, we

from 2:13-14 question

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 I don't see Eve coercing Adam. In the Genesis account, Adam is standing beside Eve silently listening to the conversation she's having with the serpent, then she eats and hands him some and he eats. Whe...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 I don't see Eve coercing Adam. In the Genesis account, Adam is standing beside Eve silently listening to the conversation she's having with the serpent,

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@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Westfall seems to see the issue here being that the woman is forcefully taking over leadership; my view is that this is not about 'usurping authority' or anything of that sort, simply that those who kno...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Westfall seems to see the issue here being that the woman is forcefully taking over leadership; my view is that this is not about 'usurping authority' o

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Ok, yet I'm sticking only with the text and the grammar and making it all work. Authentein is also a strange word for Paul to use if he simply means the usual authority. Just like we might pick up an ar...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Ok, yet I'm sticking only with the text and the grammar and making it all work. Authentein is also a strange word for Paul to use if he simply means the

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Grok, you may be quick, but your skill in reading in context needs some improving. Paul wrote this personal letter to Timothy with the express purpose for him to remain in Ephesus to instruct certain pe...

@grok @CDDTReborn @autocorrect2_0 @alcadizzar19 Grok, you may be quick, but your skill in reading in context needs some improving. Paul wrote this personal letter to Timothy with the express purpose f

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan “But Paul’s injunction is spe

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan “But Paul’s injunction is specific to the Church”—what are you referring to?

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan “The husband should be confident in his masculinity” - What does this mean? Do you mean in his rule over his wife? “…and she in her femininity” - You mean in her submissive role? Also, I’m not sure...

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan “The husband should be confident in his masculinity” - What does this mean? Do you mean in his rule over his wife? “…and she in her femininity” - Yo

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@NowRope @4res44444444 @churchtalkative Your opinion is not backed up by 1Ti 2:12 because you failed to take this passage in its context. Paul is writing to Timothy so that he would remain in Ephesus to instruct certain people not to teach strange do...

@NowRope @4res44444444 @churchtalkative Your opinion is not backed up by 1Ti 2:12 because you failed to take this passage in its context. Paul is writing to Timothy so that he would remain in Ephesus

1Ti 2:12 commentary

@JosephGeis92207 @Protestia So if a man said this it would be just fine and Paul

@JosephGeis92207 @Protestia So if a man said this it would be just fine and Paul would be ok with it? Maybe you should read 1Ti 2:11-12 in its context...

1Ti 2:11-12 commentary

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan Further, what @JoeAdrian256 appears to be suggesting is something getting closer and closer to what I hold to as an egalitarian, except that I would say we should have consensus and both agree to mov...

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan Further, what @JoeAdrian256 appears to be suggesting is something getting closer and closer to what I hold to as an egalitarian, except that I would

@ISASaxonists What translation is that? The Greek doesn't say "no woman," but "a woman". In context, Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to instruct certain people from teaching strange doctrines, not to stop anyone from teaching truth to anyone. The term ...

@ISASaxonists What translation is that? The Greek doesn't say "no woman," but "a woman". In context, Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to instruct certain people from teaching strange doctrines, not to sto

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I probably should have stated where I agree with you. You are right that even if someone remains a complementarian, the scripture is clear in both what is said and the example of Jesus and His apostl...

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I probably should have stated where I agree with you. You are right that even if someone remains a complementarian, the scripture is clear in both wh

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan Not merely as a boss as there is a romantic part to marriage that doesn’t exist in a work relationship, but the part that would be the same is when there is disagreement you have to do what the boss ...

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan Not merely as a boss as there is a romantic part to marriage that doesn’t exist in a work relationship, but the part that would be the same is when t

RT @ryanschatz: @iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I don’t think

RT @ryanschatz: @iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I don’t think the idea that the husband is the head of the wife is cultu…

1Co 11:3 Eph 5:23 general

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I don’t think the idea that the husband is the head of the wife is cultural, because Paul connects it directly with Christ as the head of His bride, the church, and with Adam as the head of his wife ...

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I don’t think the idea that the husband is the head of the wife is cultural, because Paul connects it directly with Christ as the head of His bride,

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I don’t get why it’s so hard to see this. I think that once you realize head doesn’t mean authority but is speaking about source or origin or prominence you can’t unsee that and everything changes. ...

@iheartJ37 @JoeAdrian256 @dalepartridge @ostrachan I don’t get why it’s so hard to see this. I think that once you realize head doesn’t mean authority but is speaking about source or origin or promine

If you want to know for certain whether the promises are made to Israel (the eth

If you want to know for certain whether the promises are made to Israel (the ethnic group) or are cancelled and transferred to the church, read the following post and the responses in the comments.👇 h

@slyoung687 @PastorPompu Since Adam was created in God’s image by God from the d

@slyoung687 @PastorPompu Since Adam was created in God’s image by God from the dust of the earth, He is only the glory of God. Since Eve was created in God’s image by God from Adam’s flesh and bone,

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan @farmingandJesus Yes, the husband is the head of his wife but that has nothing to do with being her boss or having authority over her. Marriage always maps back to the first marriage in Genesis wher...

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan @farmingandJesus Yes, the husband is the head of his wife but that has nothing to do with being her boss or having authority over her. Marriage alwa

@NicedayNomoremr @dalepartridge @ostrachan So Paul was instructing Timothy from

@NicedayNomoremr @dalepartridge @ostrachan So Paul was instructing Timothy from stopping women from teaching truth to men? Where in the context are you getting that from?

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@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan @farmingandJesus Differences

@JoeAdrian256 @iheartJ37 @dalepartridge @ostrachan @farmingandJesus Differences in strength meaning some tasks are better suited for the stronger one has nothing to do with one being in authority over

@NicedayNomoremr @dalepartridge @ostrachan Yes, it’s clear from the context that

@NicedayNomoremr @dalepartridge @ostrachan Yes, it’s clear from the context that Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to instruct certain people to stop teaching strange doctrines, not to stop anyone from tea

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@SocietyOfStChad @RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @BishopJaxi Eusebius disputed James, Jude, 2 Peter, 2–3 John, Revelation (he personally doubted Revelation). Even Luther disputed James, Jude, Hebrews and Revelation. That people kept disputing certain b...

@SocietyOfStChad @RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @BishopJaxi Eusebius disputed James, Jude, 2 Peter, 2–3 John, Revelation (he personally doubted Revelation). Even Luther disputed James, Jude, Hebrews and

@SocietyOfStChad @RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @BishopJaxi They knew what was scri

@SocietyOfStChad @RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @BishopJaxi They knew what was scripture from the beginning. That there was a formal declaration of such in the 4th century doesn’t mean everyone was confu

RT @ryanschatz: @TheMuppetPastor The NT preserves the earliest church traditions

RT @ryanschatz: @TheMuppetPastor The NT preserves the earliest church traditions—handed down before the NT was even complete: “They were c…

@TheMuppetPastor The NT preserves the earliest church traditions—handed down before the NT was even complete: “They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer” (Ac 2:42)—l...

@TheMuppetPastor The NT preserves the earliest church traditions—handed down before the NT was even complete: “They were continually devoting themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, t

Ac 2:42 general

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi That’s not necessary since the letters from the apostles and gospels were written in the first century. Just because a group made an official determination as to what the mainstream already kne...

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi That’s not necessary since the letters from the apostles and gospels were written in the first century. Just because a group made an official d

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi We have the New Testame

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi We have the New Testament. Is that not enough? Paul indicates in 1Cor 7:1 that he is responding to their letter, but we don’t have it preserve

1Cor 7:1 debate

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi The one in Acts and the corrections and details offered in the Epistles. Remember how Paul said: “I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; a...

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi The one in Acts and the corrections and details offered in the Epistles. Remember how Paul said: “I know that after my departure savage wolve

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi The only early church t

@RayAwesomer @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi The only early church that matters is the one documented in scripture. That church didn’t practice it.

@SocietyOfStChad @BertinMbokish @BishopJaxi Ok, I stand corrected. The Eastern O

@SocietyOfStChad @BertinMbokish @BishopJaxi Ok, I stand corrected. The Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Lutheran’s, Anglicans and Roman Catholics are all in error and clearly don’t understand Jesu

@tom_huguenard @ryancduff @DeeGoingsGirl There’s certainly the money factor but the money has largely been made and retracting his women in ministry series wouldn’t require a refund…but it would be hugely embarrassing to him to have to admit this bia...

@tom_huguenard @ryancduff @DeeGoingsGirl There’s certainly the money factor but the money has largely been made and retracting his women in ministry series wouldn’t require a refund…but it would be hu

@jess777j0 @TruthBToldNow1 All you are doing is showing that they took Jesus literally which was incorrect and something that frequently happened. For some examples, see below. “Yeast of the Pharisees”: The disciples thought Jesus was talking about...

@jess777j0 @TruthBToldNow1 All you are doing is showing that they took Jesus literally which was incorrect and something that frequently happened. For some examples, see below. “Yeast of the Pharise

@JoanBandy In this case, these remedies have come from doctors. Dr. William Maki

@JoanBandy In this case, these remedies have come from doctors. Dr. William Makis, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Daniel Nagase (local to me), Dr. Paul E. Marik, Dr. Charles Hoffe…there’s

@ryancduff @DeeGoingsGirl And who knows…if he had a conversation with someone li

@ryancduff @DeeGoingsGirl And who knows…if he had a conversation with someone like myself or basically any actual scholar who holds egalitarian views, he might change his own views and have to drop hi

@XiRuZhaJi @BishopJaxi Yes, I know this. But Jesus was speaking metaphorically.

@XiRuZhaJi @BishopJaxi Yes, I know this. But Jesus was speaking metaphorically. He wasn’t being literal. https://t.co/dX0SXXpoHx

@DanielT46640724 @BishopJaxi It means that the Father prepared a body for Jesus:

@DanielT46640724 @BishopJaxi It means that the Father prepared a body for Jesus: "Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: 'Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepa

Ps 40:6-8 debate

@DanielT46640724 @BishopJaxi Well, the fact is that the church is the body of Christ, not a wafer (properly bread that is broken) which is symbolic of his body broken for us. We eat in remembrance of Him, not to have Him inside us. He doesn’t leave u...

@DanielT46640724 @BishopJaxi Well, the fact is that the church is the body of Christ, not a wafer (properly bread that is broken) which is symbolic of his body broken for us. We eat in remembrance of

@TruthBToldNow1 I appreciate you engaging and sharing where you disagree. I have no problem with you disagreeing! Why doesn’t Paul use Eve’s name? Why does Paul use “the woman”? You suggest that Paul is simply referring to what she was called pre-f...

@TruthBToldNow1 I appreciate you engaging and sharing where you disagree. I have no problem with you disagreeing! Why doesn’t Paul use Eve’s name? Why does Paul use “the woman”? You suggest that Pau

@DanielT46640724 @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi Drinking the blood of a human or animal was expressly forbidden in the law. “It is a permanent statute throughout your generations in all your dwellings: you shall not eat any fat nor any ...

@DanielT46640724 @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi Drinking the blood of a human or animal was expressly forbidden in the law. “It is a permanent statute throughout your generations in all

Lev 3:17 general

@DanielT46640724 @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi Jesus is not bread just like He is not a door. The Levitical priesthood does not continue into the NT church. Fulfilling the law doesn’t mean that the sacrificial system continues. It sto...

@DanielT46640724 @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi Jesus is not bread just like He is not a door. The Levitical priesthood does not continue into the NT church. Fulfilling the law doesn’t

@DanielT46640724 @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi Yes, Jesus says “this is my body” but He also said “I am the door” (Jn 10:7). We are supposed to be able to understand from the context that He is speaking metaphorically. And yes, you are...

@DanielT46640724 @BertinMbokish @SocietyOfStChad @BishopJaxi Yes, Jesus says “this is my body” but He also said “I am the door” (Jn 10:7). We are supposed to be able to understand from the context tha

Jn 10:7 debate

@DanielT46640724 @BishopJaxi I appreciate that you are willing to offend for the

@DanielT46640724 @BishopJaxi I appreciate that you are willing to offend for the sake of truth. That is a noble thing. I am speaking boldly because when you bow down to a wafer, you are doing somethin