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@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor Here's the list of verses where Paul uses rhetorical questions and contrastive statements to address or correct ideas and behaviors within the early Christian communities showing that this is also a way of identifying forei...

@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor Here's the list of verses where Paul uses rhetorical questions and contrastive statements to address or correct ideas and behaviors within the early Christian communities sh

1Co 14:34-35 general

@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor While it is true that Paul often introduces quotations or topics from the Corinthians with “Περὶ δὲ” (Peri de, “Now concerning…”), he also employs rhetorical questions and contrastive arguments to distinguish his views from...

@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor While it is true that Paul often introduces quotations or topics from the Corinthians with “Περὶ δὲ” (Peri de, “Now concerning…”), he also employs rhetorical questions and c

@ronhenzel @thecrazypastor https://t.co/WJXFkEK5TS

@thecrazypastor @ronhenzel This is especially since Paul clearly instructed that

@thecrazypastor @ronhenzel This is especially since Paul clearly instructed that: "For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted..." (1Co 14:31). All may learn, b

1Co 14:31 debate

@thecrazypastor @ronhenzel The only view that makes sense of this text is Paul quoting from the letter from the Corinthians (see 1Co 7:1)⎯this is for the reasons you noted. There is no such law which could ever be reasonably interpreted to suggest th...

@thecrazypastor @ronhenzel The only view that makes sense of this text is Paul quoting from the letter from the Corinthians (see 1Co 7:1)⎯this is for the reasons you noted. There is no such law which

1Co 7:1 general

@ymmotrojam The 144,000 are also Jewish male virgins: “They sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those w...

@ymmotrojam The 144,000 are also Jewish male virgins: “They sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who h

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-17

@FreeAme19691836 Hi Russell, I am using X to address specific issues, and at this time, the forbidding of women as elders and pastors is on the forefront for me. Your assumption that I care little for the salvation of others is misjudged. I ask the...

@FreeAme19691836 Hi Russell, I am using X to address specific issues, and at this time, the forbidding of women as elders and pastors is on the forefront for me. Your assumption that I care little fo

@ronhenzel BTW, those bishops became very angry at the insistence that God booby trapped humanity in order that they would fall so that they would be dependent on Him to rescue them. But this is exactly the setup they created. LDS teaching requires...

@ronhenzel BTW, those bishops became very angry at the insistence that God booby trapped humanity in order that they would fall so that they would be dependent on Him to rescue them. But this is exac

@ronhenzel As I told the LDS bishops, this would be like God placing a trap, pointing it out (so they would be tempted to go near it), so that when they got trapped, He could be their saviour and get them out of it. How would you perceive a human fa...

@ronhenzel As I told the LDS bishops, this would be like God placing a trap, pointing it out (so they would be tempted to go near it), so that when they got trapped, He could be their saviour and get

@CaidenHooks @carol66944 @MikeWingerii It’s no more wrong than for a non-Jew to

@CaidenHooks @carol66944 @MikeWingerii It’s no more wrong than for a non-Jew to be a pastor or a slave to be a pastor or a black man. Look, many pastors have problems—don’t think that just because yo

@VGuy1689 @ronhenzel Yikes! The reformed and patristics taught this doctrine of

@VGuy1689 @ronhenzel Yikes! The reformed and patristics taught this doctrine of demons from the high table of Satan? I remember that day when two LDS bishops were in my Livingroom and I was arguing a

@CaidenHooks @carol66944 @MikeWingerii This idea is a purely a work of the ficti

@CaidenHooks @carol66944 @MikeWingerii This idea is a purely a work of the fiction of your mind and tradition. It is no more true than the idea that a pastor cannot be a Gentile or a black man or a sl

@ymmotrojam @th3muse Deacons are administrative assistants, but this does not mean that they cannot teach or preach as Stephen demonstrated (and Phillip doing evangelistic preaching and miracles in Samaria). There are no hard and fast rules that a d...

@ymmotrojam @th3muse Deacons are administrative assistants, but this does not mean that they cannot teach or preach as Stephen demonstrated (and Phillip doing evangelistic preaching and miracles in Sa

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @th3muse Of course you have to say this if you don’t accept females as deacons. The facts are: - Paul uses the feminine διάκονον - Paul is commending her to the church she is moving to as a leader - She is to be received as...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @th3muse Of course you have to say this if you don’t accept females as deacons. The facts are: - Paul uses the feminine διάκονον - Paul is commending her to the church she i

@MikeWingerii @kjvchurches How can you say the feminine form diakonon wasn’t available when Paul uses the feminine in Rom 16:1 for Phoebe? Your comment makes absolutely no sense. I reviewed your notes on episode 4 where you state “The Greek word dia...

@MikeWingerii @kjvchurches How can you say the feminine form diakonon wasn’t available when Paul uses the feminine in Rom 16:1 for Phoebe? Your comment makes absolutely no sense. I reviewed your note

Rom 16:1 question

@David_Timothy17 @MikeWingerii Then why is he calling those who spread egalitarian teaching to repent? Why is he recommending female pastors to resign? Why is he advising his followers who go to egalitarian churches to leave loudly and take others wi...

@David_Timothy17 @MikeWingerii Then why is he calling those who spread egalitarian teaching to repent? Why is he recommending female pastors to resign? Why is he advising his followers who go to egali

@CurtisKack @MikeWingerii @th3muse Interesting read of Mike’ comment. I think you may be right as he doesn’t want to respond to criticism of his position on female elders despite others like Terran Williams and Andrew Bartlett taking the time to revi...

@CurtisKack @MikeWingerii @th3muse Interesting read of Mike’ comment. I think you may be right as he doesn’t want to respond to criticism of his position on female elders despite others like Terran Wi

@Sim_Cekiso @MikeWingerii I didn’t claim that. My comment could have been worded

@Sim_Cekiso @MikeWingerii I didn’t claim that. My comment could have been worded clearer. My point being he agrees with women deacons because of Pheobe without any requirements for them since he think

1Ti 3:11-13 general

@scottspeig @MikeWingerii I will stop as soon as Mike retracts his call for egal

@scottspeig @MikeWingerii I will stop as soon as Mike retracts his call for egalitarians to repent, his advice for female pastors to step down and his recommendation that their churches be divided—all

@onegospel2021 @MikeWingerii Ever thought about what benefit your comments like

@onegospel2021 @MikeWingerii Ever thought about what benefit your comments like this bring? I’m not seeing much. Don’t you realize that Mike advised all female pastors to step down and find another j

@th3muse @KylePierce96 Apologies for any misunderstanding. Mike is a complementarian who believes women cannot occupy the role of elder/pastor or act or speak in a manner which could be interpreted as her being an elder or pastor. I am egalitarian a...

@th3muse @KylePierce96 Apologies for any misunderstanding. Mike is a complementarian who believes women cannot occupy the role of elder/pastor or act or speak in a manner which could be interpreted as

@th3muse Sorry I wasn’t more. clear. I’m egalitarian. Mike is complementarian. M

@th3muse Sorry I wasn’t more. clear. I’m egalitarian. Mike is complementarian. Mike and I agree that women can be deacons. But Mike does so because of Pheobe not because of 1Ti 3:11-13.

1Ti 3:11-13 debate

@KylePierce96 @th3muse Hmm. I knew that Mike believes women can be deacons and didn’t say he didn’t. But my response given @th3muse’s question wasn’t as clear as it could have been. Sorry for the confusion. Mike believes women can be deacons because...

@KylePierce96 @th3muse Hmm. I knew that Mike believes women can be deacons and didn’t say he didn’t. But my response given @th3muse’s question wasn’t as clear as it could have been. Sorry for the conf

1Ti 3:11-13 debate

@MikeWingerii @th3muse Question for @MikeWingerii: if 1Ti 3:1-13 doesn’t apply t

@MikeWingerii @th3muse Question for @MikeWingerii: if 1Ti 3:1-13 doesn’t apply to female deacons then where are the requirements for female deacons? Genuinely curious.

1Ti 3:1-13 question

@ryantylervo @MikeWingerii Curious what I said that you interpreted as rude? Mike misunderstood my comment as I wasn’t clear enough. I already knew he supports female deacons. As for “speaking for Mike,” his teaching is public and I don’t need his ...

@ryantylervo @MikeWingerii Curious what I said that you interpreted as rude? Mike misunderstood my comment as I wasn’t clear enough. I already knew he supports female deacons. As for “speaking for M

@MikeWingerii What I find curious is what you think are the requirements for fem

@MikeWingerii What I find curious is what you think are the requirements for female deacons since as I understand you believe that the requirements listed in 1Ti 3:1-10,12-13 don’t apply to women and

1Ti 3:1-10 question

@MikeWingerii Mike, I didn’t say that you don’t support female deacons, but I ca

@MikeWingerii Mike, I didn’t say that you don’t support female deacons, but I can see how you might have got this from my comment. https://t.co/IdHPLHUmcY

@MikeWingerii @th3muse I was looking at my post to try to figure out how you thought I was suggesting you believed that women couldn’t be deacons. I think I see what happened. @th3muse was concerned how complementarians do not support deacons. She us...

@MikeWingerii @th3muse I was looking at my post to try to figure out how you thought I was suggesting you believed that women couldn’t be deacons. I think I see what happened. @th3muse was concerned h

@j0rdanistyping @MikeWingerii Sorry, how did I misrepresent Mike and yourself on deaconesses? What did I say that was wrong? So your only option for me to be “consistent” is to be silent? I’m asking Mike to retract his call to repent and his divisi...

@j0rdanistyping @MikeWingerii Sorry, how did I misrepresent Mike and yourself on deaconesses? What did I say that was wrong? So your only option for me to be “consistent” is to be silent? I’m asking

@clay_keller1 @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes, this is a matter of Mike's own conscience on a debatable matter. He is free to conclude that the Bible promotes a complementarian view, but not as a matter of sin if you don't have male-only elders. If...

@clay_keller1 @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes, this is a matter of Mike's own conscience on a debatable matter. He is free to conclude that the Bible promotes a complementarian view, but not as a mat

@JonKismetCalvin @th3muse @MikeWingerii He uses a translation that says "Their wives" instead. I don't think he concludes that v11 is referring to the inclusion of women as deacons, but that this verse speaks about the wives of deacons. His justifica...

@JonKismetCalvin @th3muse @MikeWingerii He uses a translation that says "Their wives" instead. I don't think he concludes that v11 is referring to the inclusion of women as deacons, but that this vers

@peace_got @MikeWingerii I wasn't aware that some Calvary Chapel's are egal. If that's true, I'd like to know which one(s). I appreciate you as a Calvinist are willing to go to a non-Calvinist church. By non-negotiable, do you mean it is a sin for ...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii I wasn't aware that some Calvary Chapel's are egal. If that's true, I'd like to know which one(s). I appreciate you as a Calvinist are willing to go to a non-Calvinist church

@peace_got @MikeWingerii First, treating other believers like they are in unrepentant sin because they support or are female elders/pastors is a serious problem that causes disunity. Second, tolerating others that disagree with you on debatable matt...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii First, treating other believers like they are in unrepentant sin because they support or are female elders/pastors is a serious problem that causes disunity. Second, tolerati

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement as for elders. But Mike thinks its only the male d...

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement

1Ti 3:12 debate

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and pastors. If you cannot tolerate a secondary diffe...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are limited to not being elders nor acting like elders (which he says means speaking authoritatively or speaking in a struct

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@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if married); teaches one-man-one-woman monogamous relation...

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if marri

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@StevenMKestner Can a son hold the office of an elder?

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Hi Ron

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Hi Ron. I never strung you along. I mentioned that men are silenced today by overbearing pastors. There was nothing to resolv

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Why on earth are pastors and elders so possessive about “their job”? Moses said: “But Moses replied, 'Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the Lord's people were prop...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Why on earth are pastors and elders so possessive about “their job”? Moses said: “But Moses replied, 'Are you jealous for my

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii That has to do with false teaching. My point was that you are stopping women from teaching true doctrine. Then you said some men have to be silenced too. Then I sh...

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii That has to do with false teaching. My point was that you are stopping women from teaching true doctrine. Then yo

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the modified process now has 4 steps? 1️⃣ The person who becomes aware of the sin confronts the person. 2️⃣ 1 or 2 elders join the first lerson. 3️⃣ The team of elders take ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the modified process now has 4 steps? 1️⃣ The person who becomes aware of the sin confronts the person. 2️⃣ 1 or 2 elders j

@LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How did I respond to the leadership? The only person that had any issue was my own pastor from Canada who was afraid that I might have been perceived as usurping th...

@LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How did I respond to the leadership? The only person that had any issue was my own pastor from Canada who was afra

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just find it curious you judged me before knowing sufficient details. That’s not a good look. My pastor never mentioned it again despite me calmly saying I would not have ch...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just find it curious you judged me before knowing sufficient details. That’s not a good look. My pastor never mentioned it

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How di

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How did I directly contradict the pastoral oversight? My own pastor told me his thoughts in private at dinner after the event.

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I only found out why people were refusing the elements after the meeting. No one told me beforehand that I couldn’t speak. No one stopped me. Only in a private meeting afterwar...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I only found out why people were refusing the elements after the meeting. No one told me beforehand that I couldn’t speak. No

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii The elders must submit to Jesus’ authority. There usually are many mature people in the fellowship who can serve as witnesses, and certain so can an elder or two. The way I’ve...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii The elders must submit to Jesus’ authority. There usually are many mature people in the fellowship who can serve as witnesses,

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature would make great witnesses. The witnesses confirm ever...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature woul

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii How do you know Corinth didn't have elders? It was started by Paul, and Paul and Barnabas appointed elders in each church on their first missionary journey (Ac 14...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii How do you know Corinth didn't have elders? It was started by Paul, and Paul and Barnabas appointed elders in ea

Ac 14:23 Ti 1:5 question

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The process is quite clear, Ron. It doesn't refer to elders though it would be natural for them to be involved. And it isn't controlled by elders, nor the details...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The process is quite clear, Ron. It doesn't refer to elders though it would be natural for them to be involved.