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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and make all the decisions? Doesn’t it occur to you th...

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word for woman is the same as wife and man the same as ...

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-12-01

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…but the woman will be late”?? Ah, but we have ano...

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…

@Brian_Sauve This is extremely divisive. You are blaming apostasy on women? Cultural decline due to “unchecked feminine sensibilities”? Because the husband fails to take control over his wife and make all the decisions? Doesn’t it occur to you th...

@WWUTTcom Did you not look at my chart carefully? Paul uses particular grammar and if he wanted to say all women or plural women, he certainly knew how to do that. We also forget that the same word for woman is the same as wife and man the same as ...

@ronhenzel Next time you talk to someone and mention your wife’s name, follow it up with “the woman” and then ask your wife what she thinks of that. Is this how we normally speak? “Tamara is coming…but the woman will be late”?? Ah, but we have ano...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom! What are you doing? Paul says we are to emulate Christ who subjected Himself to being made in flesh like us to serve us even to death on a cross. The admonition is to go and d...

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning “I don’t care

@ymmotrojam @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Tom. I'm not making this up. I'm just describing the grammar. A particular deceived woman is simply noting that Paul moves from plural "all women" to "a woman/wife" and in v14 says...

@bezalelplace @Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 Those are certainly good questions! I even have to remind my wife that the only ones that know my motives are God, myself and those whom I reveal them to. We should always assume pure motives ...

I’m meeting people who feel like gender roles are connected to the gospel and that the husband having authority over the wife in a marriage demonstrates God’s order to the world. I think this is a misunderstanding of the scriptures. The following m...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 Using scripture to help decide is great. I wasn’t trying to pick any particular decision per se, but the idea that in a disagreement, your desires are prioritized over those of your wife’s. So ultimately ...

@ymmotrojam @Deigratia1985 @ich1ban123456 What authority do YOU have that you ar

@Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 But I’m in charge, right? Then by the

@Deigratia1985 @ymmotrojam @ich1ban123456 The word kephale has a possible meaning of source or origin. As marriage always goes back to its origin in Eden where Adam was the source of Eve (she was made from his bone and flesh and not directly from th...

@ich1ban123456 @ymmotrojam The requirement isn't must be male. First, the comment about "one wife husband" is the only place in the Greek might indicate male, but it says husband. If Paul wasn't married and advocated for singleness, then this is no...

@3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Even Mike Winger admits that women can be deacons and yet the term “one wife husband” is also a requirement of deacons. Was Paul married? No. And he advocated for singleness—since it removes d...

@MikeWingerii 🔍 In the clip from [1:44:48] to [1:46:15], you again question how an egalitarian husband can avoid submitting to his wife. "Do he need to go to a different church?" you say. 🤔 But, I disagree with your interpretation of verse 12. I se...

@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC What we see is: &gt;&gt; all people (vv1-7) &gt;&gt; all males (v8) &gt;&gt; all females (vv9-10) &gt;&gt; a woman (v11) &gt;&gt; a woman (wife), a man (husband) (v12) &gt;&gt; Ada...

@jdenehar Thanks for sharing your thoughts and chiming in. What are the specific husband/wife roles you are referring to? How do those apply to singles? what authority does your pastor and elders have? Can they tell you what kind of car you shoul...

@AdamPage85 @brian_lester88 @tomcatpdx5000 You are right that the order of creation is significant, but in this case Paul is using Adam and Eve as a template for a couple in Ephesus where the deceived wife is teaching false doctrine and the husband w...

@stiiiiiiine @ijbolistani @dirvarda I know that this is a pretty common understanding of that passage, but I don’t believe that when you consider all the evidence in this passage and the back references Paul uses that he is saying this. I believe he...

@Jorsch2R @autocorrect2_0 You are referring to Eph 5:22? The verb subject is in verse 21 and all are to subject themselves to one another. The reason Paul then goes on to refer to the wife is because Paul is dealing with general issues wives are ha...

@autocorrect2_0 The first thing is this umbrella analogy is non-sensical as all

@Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel The concept of hating those who disobey God is relevant even for us. “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my ...

@Rach4Patriarchy Thanks for the response. This raises some questions for me as I still don’t quite understand your perspective. 1. If a husband permits or encourages his wife to write a book, does this mean he’s responsible for the teaching or auth...

@AdamPage85 Even in the case where the mother is dying giving birth, we have the

@eltrucker87 @wbigs2001 @smashbaals Was Paul the husband of one wife?

@TowChains1 @DickSaban1 The man leaves his parents in order to cleave to his wife. This is by God's design. “Then the man said, 'At last this is bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called ‘woman,’ Because she was taken out of man....

@Mockinglogos @DickSaban1 Actually, ἑνὸς ἀνδρὸς γυνή translates to 'the wife of one man,' and μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα to 'the husband of one woman.' The phrases are equivalent in meaning but use the genitive case differently to indicate possession. It j...

@RedBeardthePat @smashbaals Yes, the man was created first and was the source of the woman, his wife. This has nothing to do with authority and everything to do with equality—they are one flesh. And you claim I’m rejecting scripture and inventing a...

@JrShines @M_Jensen23 @smashbaals Because there was a problem in many marriages due to how the wife was seen almost as property or for the purpose of producing children only or taking care of the house. In this master-slave type relationship, women ...

@The_Wry_Griot @smashbaals I wouldn’t talk about God’s Word this way, since this is what God’s word actually means. I am merely advocating for the truth. Is it a sin for a man to learn to serve and subject himself to the needs of others (Eph 5:21)?...

@smashbaals This does not mean the authority over. Since marriage is defined by going back to the first marriage in Eden where the wife Eve was taken from the flesh and bone of her husband Adam, the husband is said to be the source or origin of the...

@chopchopcda_ @smashbaals Why is the burden on the male only? Both the husband and wife need to manage the home as co-labourers. Both the man and the wife strategize on division of labour for providing for the family. That may mean one agrees to w...

@FaFfRn @Manda2364333130 @Brian_Sauve It’s actually listed as follows: 1. Christ -&gt; every man (ie. mankind) 2. Husband -&gt; Wife 3. God -&gt; Christ Taken strictly on its own, this passage does not appear to be listing hierarchies of authority a...

@Tobari80901590 @pearlythingz That idea is completely foreign to the Biblical text and is inserting myths into the account. “Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, ‘I have obtained a male...

@EtAbundatGratia @JayMuratore @MikeWingerii @ryanshatz God’s design which ends at day 7 shows no evidence of the man being given the command to rule over the wife, but that they are to rule together over creation. This is an imperative plural in Gen...

@ArmoryOC @Brian_Sauve I deal with the phrase “one wife husband” here. https://t

@jools6691 @BBisthebomb75 @AiG Wedding vows that suggest the wife is to obey her husband as if she was a child or a slave are not Biblical. Ephesians 5:21-24 doesn’t say obey. V21 says we are to subject ourselves to one another in the fear of Chris...

RT @ryanschatz: @DickSaban1 @Peacemaker811 @PubliusJosephus “For the husband is

@DickSaban1 @Peacemaker811 @PubliusJosephus “For the husband is the source of the wife (since marriage is defined by the first couple and Eve came from Adam’s flesh and bone), as Christ also is the source of the church (how?) He Himself being the Sav...

@allattwa66533 He defined what marriage is. “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will...

@AccurateCaption @smashbaals Lusting over what is not yours or what you cannot have (by law) is the 10th commandment. "You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor desire your neighbor’s house, his field, his male slave or his female slave, his ox,...

@ElizabethOstli1 @haymes_joshua Lots of great points in this article. I wanted to highlight one from her footnotes: “It seems that for many Christian men, the takeaway from Ephesians 5:25–33 is that one day they have to be willing to die for their ...

@Zeeleciouz @Solomon_Buchi He said "A Christian man was not instructed to submit to his wife" and yet this passage says "the husband also does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does"⎯If the husband does not submit to his wife, then t...

@Solomon_Buchi There’s a verse that explicitly calls the man to also submit to his wife: "The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise the husband also does not have authority over his own body, but the wife...

@randyjswife Really? Could people just be reading Paul wrong? 1 Cor 14:34-35–P

@sisi_siki_ Many feel that 1 Tim 3 and Titus 1 teach that elders or overseers must be men because it says “husband of one wife.” However, this is an idiom for faithful if married. It is clear Paul didn’t require marriage just as he didn’t require h...

RT @drbrudd: Only one passage in the New Testament (1 Cor 7:4) ascribes "authori

@jhorraceo @ortrails @goteamcarr You should ask my wife whether she thinks I loo

@blackmamba_btc @AEQEA @nakedpastor The reason the husband is said to be the kehpale of the wife is because of Adam and Eve ⎯ Eve was created from Adam as her source. Adam was created first. But authority doesn’t come from being created first or el...

@AEQEA @blackmamba_btc @BrotherBoaz @nakedpastor Paul wasn’t advocating for a hierarchy of authority. He was talking about Jesus being the source or origin of His church and Adam being the source or origin of Eve thus giving the grounding for marria...

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@graceforprize @sympatheticNPC What we see is: >> all people (vv1-7) >> all males (v8) >> all females (vv9-10) >> a woman (v11) >> a woman (wife), a man (husband) (v12) >> Ada...

@FaFfRn @Manda2364333130 @Brian_Sauve It’s actually listed as follows: 1. Christ -> every man (ie. mankind) 2. Husband -> Wife 3. God -> Christ Taken strictly on its own, this passage does not appear to be listing hierarchies of authority a...