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@XianPatriot @Psalm2_12Xian @smashbaals @danielsilliman Explaining scripture is precisely what pastors and teachers do. I’d be happy to help you understand this one as well. Paul is quoting from the letter that the Corinthians wrote to him and in th...

@XianPatriot @Psalm2_12Xian @smashbaals @danielsilliman Explaining scripture is precisely what pastors and teachers do. I’d be happy to help you understand this one as well. Paul is quoting from the

@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Again, you may be flippant about using the plural and the singular, but Paul seems to be intentional in the flow of this text, starting from all people, men, women, a woman, a man, Adam, Eve, t...

@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Again, you may be flippant about using the plural and the singular, but Paul seems to be intentional in the flow of this text, starting from al

@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman How is it that Paul supposedly creates a new law in a letter to an individual and not to the church? Who is “the woman” in v14? She is one who will be saved contingent on things she and another...

@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman How is it that Paul supposedly creates a new law in a letter to an individual and not to the church? Who is “the woman” in v14? She is one who

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@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Did Paul suddenly forget how to use the plural for all women if he meant it? If it was an established law of God, why did he say “I do not permit”? Why is this law not repeated elsewhere? Why d...

@XianPatriot @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Did Paul suddenly forget how to use the plural for all women if he meant it? If it was an established law of God, why did he say “I do not perm

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-04

@SindlandOz34748 @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Paul did not silenc

@SindlandOz34748 @Darrin_Caudill @smashbaals @danielsilliman Paul did not silence half the body just after saying the following… "For you can *all* prophesy one by one, so that *all* may learn and *a

1Co 14:31 general

@WagnerJere47288 @humanvideogamer @RenOfMen The mystery is that Christ and His c

@WagnerJere47288 @humanvideogamer @RenOfMen The mystery is that Christ and His church are one body and receive the same inheritance (which is crazy if you really think about it). If Paul meant ruler,

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-04

@humanvideogamer @WagnerJere47288 @RenOfMen The word kephale (translated as head

@humanvideogamer @WagnerJere47288 @RenOfMen The word kephale (translated as head) doesn't mean authority in the contexts Paul is using it. If he meant authority over, why didn't he just use a word for

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-01

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The jumping around from plural to singular and back again is very unclear if Paul means women generically. To mix deception with generic people and salvation for those generic deceived people seems nonsensical. Paul is w...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The jumping around from plural to singular and back again is very unclear if Paul means women generically. To mix deception with generic people and salvation for those ge

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii What is Paul's point using Eve as an archetype of

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii What is Paul's point using Eve as an archetype of all women (what you have said elsewhere is 'womankind')? Are you suggesting Paul is explaining to Timothy that all women

@IiiPaulus @smashbaals Barak is a hero because he was even willing to listen to

@IiiPaulus @smashbaals Barak is a hero because he was even willing to listen to a woman because she was the mouthpiece of God. Barak humbled Himself and didn’t covet the honor of killing Sisera for hi

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii My thinking is that Paul suspected she would repen

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii My thinking is that Paul suspected she would repent of her false teaching and so why mark her name. Remember Jezebel? Further, Paul’s writing is God-breathed and so ulti

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1Co 11:10 1Co 6:2-3 Re 2:26-27 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul says that the saints will judge the world and angels (1Co 6:2-3) and Jesus will seat believers on His throne with Him (Re 2:26-27; 3:21). Why would that be a sin in the church for women if Paul even uses it to justi...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul says that the saints will judge the world and angels (1Co 6:2-3) and Jesus will seat believers on His throne with Him (Re 2:26-27; 3:21). Why would that be a sin in

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Further, as I have demonstrated, there is another

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Further, as I have demonstrated, there is another plausible explanation for 1Ti 2:12 that refers to a specific woman and explains why Paul may have chosen such a strange

1Ti 2:12 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii But you are looking at an example. And this certai

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii But you are looking at an example. And this certainly is a valid option. Thank you for your humble probability calculation. I recognize that. But Paul’s context has to be

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I'm not sure what your point is. He concealed her

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I'm not sure what your point is. He concealed her name but Timothy was clear on who he was referring to. You have Paul concealing a command that women are not to preach

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii In case you forgot, Peter recognized⎯and that's a

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii In case you forgot, Peter recognized⎯and that's a true contemporary⎯that people twisted Paul's words in other cases. This is no different, really.

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul is protecting this deceived woman by not nami

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul is protecting this deceived woman by not naming her like he names Hymenaeus and Alexander. Since this is a personal letter to a close companion, he only needs to com

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Is that how we determine Paul's meaning? That we h

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Is that how we determine Paul's meaning? That we have to find a corresponding example in extant Greek literature or it is not possible even if it fits many details in the

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I understand you see this as speculative, but I never said it was the grounding of the whole letter. Your view has Paul giving a command to all women to not be in positions of authority over men in a personal letter to ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I understand you see this as speculative, but I never said it was the grounding of the whole letter. Your view has Paul giving a command to all women to not be in positi

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The corresponding idea is in 1Ti 4:12 “Let no one despise your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity." Paul encourages confidence and not shrinking back as he would n...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The corresponding idea is in 1Ti 4:12 “Let no one despise your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity." Paul encourag

1Ti 4:12 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii If Paul is using Eve prototypically, then the same description of Eve's deception can apply to this specific wife teaching heresy in Ephesus. This solves the awkwardness of using 'the woman' to referred to Eve who is alr...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii If Paul is using Eve prototypically, then the same description of Eve's deception can apply to this specific wife teaching heresy in Ephesus. This solves the awkwardness

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You said I have to break the immediate context. But this is not the case if Paul is using Eve prototypically. What Paul writes, "but the woman..." sounds like it's referring to Eve, yet he already mentioned her name and ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You said I have to break the immediate context. But this is not the case if Paul is using Eve prototypically. What Paul writes, "but the woman..." sounds like it's referr

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You are correct that 'a woman' and 'Eve' are both anarthrous. I don't agree that the anaphoric use makes best sense referring back to Eve. Paul is using Adam and Eve prototypically which is why 'the woman' looks like Eve...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You are correct that 'a woman' and 'Eve' are both anarthrous. I don't agree that the anaphoric use makes best sense referring back to Eve. Paul is using Adam and Eve prot

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You know that T was admonished not to be timid (2T

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii You know that T was admonished not to be timid (2Ti 1:7), so the reason Paul is giving him ‘his’ authority is because T is timid. T is intervening between a husband and a

2Ti 1:7 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Here we don’t see Paul commanding T to ‘command’ the false teachers but (in patience) to instruct them. If Paul is commanding T to give commands to the church then we would need to see the commands outside of Tim. In 1Ti...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Here we don’t see Paul commanding T to ‘command’ the false teachers but (in patience) to instruct them. If Paul is commanding T to give commands to the church then we wou

1Ti 2:12 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Let’s revisit 1Tim. Let’s look for commands. In 1Ti 1:3, Paul said that T should instruct others not to teach strange doctrines. The word for “instruct” can mean to command, but it is a subjunctive—the mood that normally...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Let’s revisit 1Tim. Let’s look for commands. In 1Ti 1:3, Paul said that T should instruct others not to teach strange doctrines. The word for “instruct” can mean to comma

1Ti 1:3 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii This is because the church is not doing what they

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii This is because the church is not doing what they were supposed to. The whole church is not obeying Christ’s teaching and Paul is merely representing Christ’s teaching an

1Ti 1:19-20 1Ti 2:11-15 question

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Where? In 1Ti 2:11-15. Paul demonstrates mercy by

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Where? In 1Ti 2:11-15. Paul demonstrates mercy by not naming this woman teaching false doctrine and instructing that she be taught the truth. Paul does not instruct Timot

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii In the end, Paul is clear that it is not on the basis of his authority that we listen to him, but upon the message and from whom the message comes—Jesus. Ga 1:8: "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a g...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii In the end, Paul is clear that it is not on the basis of his authority that we listen to him, but upon the message and from whom the message comes—Jesus. Ga 1:8: "But ev

Ga 1:8 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii A child has much less experience and so I would ha

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii A child has much less experience and so I would have more compassion on a child than on an adult. Even then, Paul seems to suggest that there are two kinds of false teach

1Ti 5:23 2Ti 4:13 general

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii For example—none of the following imperatives (commands) are binding on you or I, nor do I think even to those whom Paul was speaking to: 1. 2Ti 4:13: "When you come, bring the cloak that I left with Carpus at Troas, an...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii For example—none of the following imperatives (commands) are binding on you or I, nor do I think even to those whom Paul was speaking to: 1. 2Ti 4:13: "When you come, br

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Well, yes, there are commands, but these are not made up simply by authority inherent in Paul himself such that he could tell you to sit or stand and you would have to obey or be struck with lightning. There are also a ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Well, yes, there are commands, but these are not made up simply by authority inherent in Paul himself such that he could tell you to sit or stand and you would have to ob

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-30

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Maybe you could comment on the following verse abo

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Maybe you could comment on the following verse about Paul: 2Co 10:10: "For some say, 'His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his spea

2Co 10:10 debate

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The authority is not in the messenger but the mess

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The authority is not in the messenger but the message. This is a fundamental flaw complementarians (and Origen) make in interpreting αὐθεντεῖν in the context of Paul’s le

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-30

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I have no idea how Origen supports his view of a woman not having authority over men when it comes to Deborah. But I am not an expert on Origen and surely understanding Paul doesn’t require one to be an expert on Origen!...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I have no idea how Origen supports his view of a woman not having authority over men when it comes to Deborah. But I am not an expert on Origen and surely understanding P

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-22

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I’m what do you mean “pretty much every use of the verb”? Yes, I get my interpretation from how Paul uses the word in context. Somehow you get the meaning that Paul is stopping people from teaching true doctrine. I don...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I’m what do you mean “pretty much every use of the verb”? Yes, I get my interpretation from how Paul uses the word in context. Somehow you get the meaning that Paul is

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-22

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul purportedly says that a woman must not take authority over a man and uses creation to justify this. So I ask then where do Eve take authority over Adam or Adam over Eve? How then does creation justify such a stateme...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul purportedly says that a woman must not take authority over a man and uses creation to justify this. So I ask then where do Eve take authority over Adam or Adam over

@curtisschlepp @JollyStine Except that qualifications should apply individually as one spouse may not have a teaching gift or the fortitude to correct false teaching. And also, Paul was single (and likely Timothy) and advocated for singleness so one...

@curtisschlepp @JollyStine Except that qualifications should apply individually as one spouse may not have a teaching gift or the fortitude to correct false teaching. And also, Paul was single (and l

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Again, that's not my point. The noun authenteis is

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Again, that's not my point. The noun authenteis is being used in the sense of murderer. I'm suggesting that the noun and verb are certainly related and the meaning will d

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul uses this prototypically and so reaches for a specific word which illustrates what is going on⎯that a deceived and ignorant (and therefore unnamed) wife is teaching false doctrine and her undeceived husband (likely ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul uses this prototypically and so reaches for a specific word which illustrates what is going on⎯that a deceived and ignorant (and therefore unnamed) wife is teaching

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul sees a situation that is not unlike that of the garden of Eden⎯the wife is deceived and attempting to lead Adam into the same sin; the husband (Adam) is not deceived but silent, not correcting or protecting her give...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul sees a situation that is not unlike that of the garden of Eden⎯the wife is deceived and attempting to lead Adam into the same sin; the husband (Adam) is not deceived

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yeah, I don’t agree with Terran here. I don’t thin

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Yeah, I don’t agree with Terran here. I don’t think Paul is drawing on the meaning to dominate. I don’t see how Eve was dominating Adam in Eden.

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, and Paul uses Adam and Eve and the deception in the ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii We also cannot constrain Paul’s meaning because we found a couple of texts that used it differently. Ultimately how Paul is using the word is dependent on the context, an

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Further, it is not that the noun and verb forms are completely unrelated but that Winger’s contention that the noun was not used to mean murderer in Paul’s time fails because it’s clearly present in a text Paul was quoti...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Further, it is not that the noun and verb forms are completely unrelated but that Winger’s contention that the noun was not used to mean murderer in Paul’s time fails bec

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Ultimately our understanding of the Biblical text is not driven by how a couple of unrelated texts used the word but Paul’s context and meaning. Since Paul quotes from Wis Sol it is a more relevant text when assessing th...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Ultimately our understanding of the Biblical text is not driven by how a couple of unrelated texts used the word but Paul’s context and meaning. Since Paul quotes from Wi

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii That is a mischaracterization of Terran’s point. His point was not about Paul’s love of Wis Sol but that Paul was familiar with a variety of sources which suggests his familiarity with the use of the noun as murderers. T...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii That is a mischaracterization of Terran’s point. His point was not about Paul’s love of Wis Sol but that Paul was familiar with a variety of sources which suggests his fa

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The idea that Paul’s use of an older word would be analogous to using King James-era English in modern speech to leverage its rich vocabulary is quite apt. It’s not about the typical audience but the precision and impact...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii The idea that Paul’s use of an older word would be analogous to using King James-era English in modern speech to leverage its rich vocabulary is quite apt. It’s not about

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii While it’s true that Paul, Philo, and Josephus addressed different audiences, it doesn’t preclude Paul from utilizing an older term which better his purpose. Just as modern speakers might use an archaic word to convey a ...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii While it’s true that Paul, Philo, and Josephus addressed different audiences, it doesn’t preclude Paul from utilizing an older term which better his purpose. Just as mode

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul’s audience in this letter is Timothy, a close partner whom he had mentored for years, and so Timothy would understand Paul’s language and intent, even if it included words with a historical connotation. Further, the...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii Paul’s audience in this letter is Timothy, a close partner whom he had mentored for years, and so Timothy would understand Paul’s language and intent, even if it included