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@russ_hjelm Well, in that case, women would have authority! 😉

What did Paul mean by "Therefore the woman should have authority on her head bec

What did Paul mean by "Therefore the woman should have authority on her head because of the angels" (1Co 11:10)?

1Co 11:10 question

@carmony_bryce Huh? There's a lot of protestant churches that forbid women from

@carmony_bryce Huh? There's a lot of protestant churches that forbid women from any leadership roles... just so you are aware.

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@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still”

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still” How long was Jesus’ hair? How about John the Baptist who never cut his hair? Samson? Absalom? Anyone taking a Nazarite

Ac 18:18 question

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians time to catch up and many believe that as long as...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English becau

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English because the translators are just as puzzled as you are. They shouldn’t have done that as it’s misleading. She should have au

@TarienCole @JollyStine @MikeWingerii A woman who had an unbelieving husband was to have the authority over her own head to decide whether to wear a covering or not. The reason was because she has two heads, Christ and her husband, and Paul—by comm...

@TarienCole @JollyStine @MikeWingerii A woman who had an unbelieving husband was to have the authority over *her own* head to decide whether to wear a covering or not. The reason was because she has t

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritativ

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritatively” (whatever that means), nor occupy the role of an elder, nor do anything to make it appear that they are acting in t

commentary

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over” type of authority? Isn’t there a common term for...

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over

1Ti 3:2 debate

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Leadership roles are roles of submitting to serve the

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Leadership roles are roles of submitting to serve the needs of others by helping them mature in Christ. They are not "lording over" roles. And, BTW, the function of episkopē

1Ti 3:1 debate

@SwordMasterPub @johnmarkallen Ok Mr authority.

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Where is “exerting authority over” someone stated in a

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Where is “exerting authority over” someone stated in a positive way for anyone? Does you pastor exert authority over you on Sunday morning? What, by simply reading the Bible

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, especially in context to 1Ti 1:2. Yes, Eve does “dou...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, es

1Ti 1:2 commentary

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning that Paul had, we don't see that this passage for...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate We all agree with the syntax in this verse. What we disagree with is whether “A woman/wife” is a generic wo...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate We all agree with the syntax in this verse. What we disag

1Ti 1:2 debate

@peace_got @nsraban Deborah was no less than Samuel. She was clearly the highest

@peace_got @nsraban Deborah was no less than Samuel. She was clearly the highest authority in the land. Her authority applied in all areas as she was God’s representative. How in the world does Debor

@EkIesou @ronhenzel James appears to be having grammar issues right now… At any rate, his teaching on the anaphoric use of the article is solid and it most certainly could be applied to this case. He chooses not to for whatever reason. Paul’s shift...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel James appears to be having grammar issues right now… At any rate, his teaching on the anaphoric use of the article is solid and it most certainly could be applied to this case. He

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved” in v15. On the contrary, your explanation doesn’t...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved”

@johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are correct that either can and have worked out. My question has to do with the fact that giving the husband a mandate to have authority over his wife creates the fertile ground for abuse. It’s probably why successfu...

@johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are correct that either can and have worked out. My question has to do with the fact that giving the husband a mandate to have authority over his wife creates the fert

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Paul use such a rare word for this when commonly und...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Pa

1T 2:2 debate

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is speaking about a specific woman because of the articl...

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is spe

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Responsibility often comes with knowledge, ability, experience or maturity. “John answered and said, ‘A man can receive nothing, unless it has been given him from heaven.’” (Jn 3:27) Later, Jesus said to ...

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Responsibility often comes with knowledge, ability, experience or maturity. “John answered and said, ‘A man can receive nothing, unless it has been given h

Jn 3:27 debate

@SolaChristus7 @johnmarkallen @haymes_joshua "ALL Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be fully capable, equipped for every good work...

@SolaChristus7 @johnmarkallen @haymes_joshua "ALL Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God

2Ti 3:16-17 debate

@ThomasPurell @sailemptyskies @JollyStine @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Nope. Noth

@ThomasPurell @sailemptyskies @JollyStine @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Nope. Nothing in scripture is being rejected. If you think male only leaders is orthodox then you have already clearly strayed fro

@ThomasPurell @sailemptyskies @andrewjritchie @MikeWingerii No. The church only has one head, that is Christ. The Waldensiens had female leaders and they were pre-Luther. But that doesn’t matter because you are making this a game about majority vote ...

@ThomasPurell @sailemptyskies @andrewjritchie @MikeWingerii No. The church only has one head, that is Christ. The Waldensiens had female leaders and they were pre-Luther. But that doesn’t matter becau

@amoree @MikeWingerii No, that would be very unwise of me. Of course I have much

@amoree @MikeWingerii No, that would be very unwise of me. Of course I have much Biblically faithful reasons why I disagree with his view that God ordains Gender-based authority hierarchy. You can sta

@peace_got @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Mor

@peace_got @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii There is no such prohibition. Paul never used the normal word for authority

@haymes_joshua @Blogsbloke Egalitarians don’t believe that the husband is not th

@haymes_joshua @Blogsbloke Egalitarians don’t believe that the husband is not the “head” of their wife. We understand kephale means source, not authority over. See the LSJ lexical entry 👇 https://t.co

@SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua Please show me where you see authority hiearchy in Gen 1-2. There is no evidence in the text for it; each person (God, Adam, Eve and the Serpent) don't seem to act like Adam is the authority over Eve. God commands both t...

@SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua Please show me where you see authority hiearchy in Gen 1-2. There is no evidence in the text for it; each person (God, Adam, Eve and the Serpent) don't seem to act like A

Gen 3:16 debate

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii It’s not about whether you can make it work but about what the Bible teaches. There is absolutely no hint of a hierarchy of authority in Gen 1-2 between the man and the woman. No one in the text appears to...

@narrow_road_2 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii It’s not about whether you can make it work but about what the Bible teaches. There is absolutely no hint of a hierarchy of authority in Gen 1-2 between th

@SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua Male headship has to do with Adam as the origin of

@SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua Male headship has to do with Adam as the origin of Eve because she was made from him. This has nothing to do with authority.

@haymes_joshua For me this has nothing to do with culture and everything to do w

@haymes_joshua For me this has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with a careful reading of the intent of scripture. I’m not a progressive. Only women can give birth and men are built mo

@peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii When anyone at that time diverges from the generally accepted view of male authority it should be carefully noted. Cyril’s co...

@peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii When anyone at that time diverges from the generally accepted view of male

You'd expect Mike, as a complementarian, to prefer the father giving her away, r

You'd expect Mike, as a complementarian, to prefer the father giving her away, reflecting the father's authority. Surprisingly, he supports both parents giving her away, aiming not to treat the woman

@ThomasPurell @sailemptyskies @andrewjritchie @MikeWingerii If you think that egalitarians are saying that men are supposed to have babies, then no wonder you reject it. It’s a straw man. We believe men and women are complementary too, and they comp...

@ThomasPurell @sailemptyskies @andrewjritchie @MikeWingerii If you think that egalitarians are saying that men are supposed to have babies, then no wonder you reject it. It’s a straw man. We believe

@plumlee_ann @avyargo @MikeWingerii I'm not sure what your definition of leading

@plumlee_ann @avyargo @MikeWingerii I'm not sure what your definition of leading is, but leading is simply doing things ahead of others, showing by example. This is not about authority.

@avyargo @plumlee_ann @MikeWingerii The Bible doesn't tell anyone to "hold authority." Women are certainly told to teach and shown to teach others. No one is called pastor in the New Testament except Jesus Himself. Anyone who forbids women from full...

@avyargo @plumlee_ann @MikeWingerii The Bible doesn't tell anyone to "hold authority." Women are certainly told to teach and shown to teach others. No one is called pastor in the New Testament except

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul is establishing order. The way church is done today is nothing like what Paul describes in 1Ti 3. Today it is all about position and authority; ...

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul is establishing order. The way church is done today is nothing like what Paul describes in 1Ti

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul gives the proper order for dealing with false doctrine. A properly functioning leadership will curb false teaching by gently dealing with it. As...

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul gives the proper order for dealing with false doctrine. A properly functioning leadership will

1Ti 3:15 general

@mythreesonsb @EtAbundatGratia @MikeWingerii So men are never usurping authority? Also where is this idea of a place of authority in the church even established that merely standing in it usurps it? All of this seems to be based on a conjectural int...

@mythreesonsb @EtAbundatGratia @MikeWingerii So men are never usurping authority? Also where is this idea of a place of authority in the church even established that merely standing in it usurps it?

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii The

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @peace_got @JosiahHawthorne @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii There’s only two identified as elders and it’s Peter and John. The rest of the references we can’t be certain they are all

@ronhenzel @John_T_Caldwell @MikeWingerii I appreciate that Ron. All the best to you as you keep doing what you feel is right. That said, egalitarians are not sinning by allowing and encouraging godly and gifted women to minister by teaching truth a...

@ronhenzel @John_T_Caldwell @MikeWingerii I appreciate that Ron. All the best to you as you keep doing what you feel is right. That said, egalitarians are not sinning by allowing and encouraging godl

@avyargo @MikeWingerii It’s not about not liking it. You are misreading these passages thinking they prohibit godly women who are gifted by God from fulfilling His calling for them. To restrict them is quenching the Holy Spirit. God does not implemen...

@avyargo @MikeWingerii It’s not about not liking it. You are misreading these passages thinking they prohibit godly women who are gifted by God from fulfilling His calling for them. To restrict them i

@peace_got @iheartJ37 @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii But the priesthood is not the highest authority in the theocracy. It was leaders like Moses. Deborah was like the Moses of her time...

@peace_got @iheartJ37 @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii But the priesthood is not the highest authority in the theocracy. It was leaders

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Whoops... haha. Sorry, read too fast. 1Ti 2:12 doesn't say "must not be a woman" but "I do not permit a woman to teach or authentein a man." Paul doesn't mean a woman cannot teach truth to a man as a Bere...

@EtAbundatGratia @mythreesonsb @MikeWingerii Whoops... haha. Sorry, read too fast. 1Ti 2:12 doesn't say "must not be a woman" but "I do not permit a woman to teach or authentein a man." Paul doesn't

1Ti 2:12 debate

@RBM7211 @MikeWingerii @TerranWilliams4 Just read the article. There's no authority to appeal to. But Mike won't listen to a nobody like me. He seems to only want to consider those who are published. Well, here's two published authors who carefully a...

@RBM7211 @MikeWingerii @TerranWilliams4 Just read the article. There's no authority to appeal to. But Mike won't listen to a nobody like me. He seems to only want to consider those who are published.

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exactly that is...I think Mike thinks this is the tea...

@IceBucketsIBCM I'm not resisting God's word, though I do disagree with the complementarian version which has women being prohibited from places of leadership or "authoritative teaching" (whatever exa

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii Right, it’s your church. But I’m a man and I’m asking what you would restrict me from in your church given I believe the scripture is egalitarian in the involvement of women in leadership. I can live at peac...

@MikedAlamo @HannahJasmine13 @MikeWingerii Right, it’s your church. But I’m a man and I’m asking what you would restrict me from in your church given I believe the scripture is egalitarian in the invo

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may share my views on certain passages but not in a divi...

@MikedAlamo @MikeWingerii The WCF says nothing about women and leadership. I’d be willing to live at peace within the context of a complementarian church as I have for many years (which means I may sh