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@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, this is not a defeater of my assertion that “the woman” is an anaphoric reference to “a woman.” Without v14 and the article, we would have more reason to consider vs11-12 ...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, this is not a defeater of my assertion that “the woman” is an anaphoric reference to “a woman.” Without v14 and the artic

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus couldn’t be an elder in His own church! The require...

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus co

@EirChristina I wish we could have more than 4 options (actually 3 since you usu

@EirChristina I wish we could have more than 4 options (actually 3 since you usually need to give an “I don’t know” or “other” option). Thanks for sharing! Will update once the poll is over with what

@CharmyRosewolf @jmmooreo Payne it seems would pick option 2, but he also agrees with option 3. “On account of the angels: The context here is worship, and Paul refers to angels in the context of worship elsewhere. Earlier in 1 Corinthians he wrote:...

@CharmyRosewolf @jmmooreo Payne it seems would pick option 2, but he also agrees with option 3. “On account of the angels: The context here is worship, and Paul refers to angels in the context of wor

What did Paul mean by "Therefore the woman should have authority on her head bec

What did Paul mean by "Therefore the woman should have authority on her head because of the angels" (1Co 11:10)?

1Co 11:10 question

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still”

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still” How long was Jesus’ hair? How about John the Baptist who never cut his hair? Samson? Absalom? Anyone taking a Nazarite

Ac 18:18 question

@ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @MikeWingerii Now the question is why. Why do they wear them? Is it not to show shame for sin in God’s presence? As Christians, our shame for sin has been removed in Christ! Paul says we should NOT cover our heads. Covering...

@ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @MikeWingerii Now the question is why. Why do they wear them? Is it not to show shame for sin in God’s presence? As Christians, our shame for sin has been removed in Christ!

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English becau

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English because the translators are just as puzzled as you are. They shouldn’t have done that as it’s misleading. She should have au

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii No. All you need to do is go back to the same letter Paul made the reference in… 1Co 6:2-3. Just read it. It will make perfect sense. If women will judge angels, then SURELY they have the ability to decide whether to...

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii No. All you need to do is go back to the same letter Paul made the reference in… 1Co 6:2-3. Just read it. It will make perfect sense. If women will judge angels, then

1Co 6:2-3 general

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such pra...

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone

1Co 11:16 debate

@JollyStine @rr74cm @MikeWingerii Plus it’s based on the interpretation which ha

@JollyStine @rr74cm @MikeWingerii Plus it’s based on the interpretation which has Paul advocating FOR the use of head coverings which is the exact opposite of what Paul says.

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional interpretation of Paul advocating for head coverings. Let me ask you this: what does nature tell you is the difference

@TarienCole @JollyStine @MikeWingerii A woman who had an unbelieving husband was to have the authority over her own head to decide whether to wear a covering or not. The reason was because she has two heads, Christ and her husband, and Paul—by comm...

@TarienCole @JollyStine @MikeWingerii A woman who had an unbelieving husband was to have the authority over *her own* head to decide whether to wear a covering or not. The reason was because she has t

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral roles. It is referring to “a woman” which v14 spec...

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Interesting. Paul said that he had NO such practice (i

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Interesting. Paul said that he had NO such practice (ie. head coverings)… "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor have the churches of Go

1Co 11:16 debate

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over” type of authority? Isn’t there a common term for...

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over

1Ti 3:2 debate

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Totally fine if you disagree. 1Ti is about dealing with false teaching, what you call “behav[ing] badly.” If Paul is referring to all women, the singular needs to be explained away including the “she will be saved” in...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Totally fine if you disagree. 1Ti is about dealing with false teaching, what you call “behav[ing] badly.” If Paul is referring to all women, the singular needs to be e

@SwordMasterPub You have to refer to the Greek not the English. If Peter could

@SwordMasterPub You have to refer to the Greek not the English. If Peter could be an elder (1 Pe 5:1) then Paul certainly can. Paul functioned as an overseer of multiple churches.

1 Pe 5:1 general

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, especially in context to 1Ti 1:2. Yes, Eve does “dou...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, es

1Ti 1:2 commentary

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning that Paul had, we don't see that this passage for...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning

@subq @ronhenzel You want to mark and avoid me because my Biblically faithful ex

@subq @ronhenzel You want to mark and avoid me because my Biblically faithful exegesis disagrees with yours? That's not why Paul marked and avoided people. I'm glad you enjoy the (c). Yes, I will kee

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate We all agree with the syntax in this verse. What we disagree with is whether “A woman/wife” is a generic wo...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate We all agree with the syntax in this verse. What we disag

1Ti 1:2 debate

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Yes, I know you don't want to debate. I must have really upset you somehow that you had to correct me. I appreciate you jumping back in⎯even for a moment or two. Where does the text say that "Paul...appointed male elders...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Yes, I know you don't want to debate. I must have really upset you somehow that you had to correct me. I appreciate you jumping back in⎯even for a moment or two. Where do

Tit 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1-13 debate

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Hi Glenn! Nice to see you back. I agree that Paul was commissioned by Christ. But Paul also met the qualifications of 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9. The qualifications are clearly written in a way that includes either male or ...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Hi Glenn! Nice to see you back. I agree that Paul was commissioned by Christ. But Paul also met the qualifications of 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9. The qualifications are clea

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel The point that Gal 3:28 was “still a long ways off” is not because Paul didn’t already believe this. Paul’s entire ministry was focused on the Gentiles so that was clearly known by Paul. Why do you think he didn’t know...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel The point that Gal 3:28 was “still a long ways off” is not because Paul didn’t already believe this. Paul’s entire ministry was focused on the Gentiles so that was clea

Gal 3:28 question

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel I see you have multiple replies but I want to focus here. Where did you get the idea that Adam sinned in unbelief? If that was so, why didn’t Paul tell us that? Paul simply says he was not deceived. So he believed wha...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel I see you have multiple replies but I want to focus here. Where did you get the idea that Adam sinned in unbelief? If that was so, why didn’t Paul tell us that? Paul s

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Paul is telling Timothy he is not allowing what this specific woman is doing. Paul is not asking Timothy to interfere. Paul is making the decision. Timothy is to give the message to the woman. In that way he is steppin...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Paul is telling Timothy he is not allowing what this specific woman is doing. Paul is not asking Timothy to interfere. Paul is making the decision. Timothy is to give t

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel I didn’t say the certain ones are the “men and women” in chapter 2 but the “a wife” and “a husband” in 1Ti 2:11-15. Only “she” will be saved (because she is the one deceived and fallen away from the faith) if “they”—t...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel I didn’t say the certain ones are the “men and women” in chapter 2 but the “a wife” and “a husband” in 1Ti 2:11-15. Only “she” will be saved (because she is the one de

1Ti 2:11-15 debate

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Wow, you are the first that I have seen who says

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Wow, you are the first that I have seen who says Paul is disqualified as an overseer despite the fact he is clearly doing the work of one.

@JeffreyPHo67012 @ronhenzel My interpretation that Paul had a specific wife and

@JeffreyPHo67012 @ronhenzel My interpretation that Paul had a specific wife and husband in mind is not a very common interpretation. If you find others who agree with this, please let me know! This i

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Peter was (1Pe 5:1). What reason would you say P

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Peter was (1Pe 5:1). What reason would you say Paul was not acting as an overseer?

1Pe 5:1 question

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Well, I haven’t found it everywhere… just in this passage. Paul charged Timothy to stop “certain people” and he identified in chapter 1 that some are ignorant and some are not, and that the ignorant should receive mer...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Well, I haven’t found it everywhere… just in this passage. Paul charged Timothy to stop “certain people” and he identified in chapter 1 that some are ignorant and some

@StevenMKestner @SwordMasterPub Was Paul a husband? Timothy?

@EkIesou @ronhenzel James appears to be having grammar issues right now… At any rate, his teaching on the anaphoric use of the article is solid and it most certainly could be applied to this case. He chooses not to for whatever reason. Paul’s shift...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel James appears to be having grammar issues right now… At any rate, his teaching on the anaphoric use of the article is solid and it most certainly could be applied to this case. He

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI How do you know that? Peter said he was an elder (1Pe

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI How do you know that? Peter said he was an elder (1Pe 5:1). Paul oversaw multiple churches, writing letters, making sure that they were healthy, etc. He remained in Ephesus f

1Pe 5:1 question

@SwordMasterPub I used to be complementarian so no, so no, I’m not reading my co

@SwordMasterPub I used to be complementarian so no, so no, I’m not reading my conclusion into the text. “Must be” is not in the imperative. Look again. Was Paul a husband?

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved” in v15. On the contrary, your explanation doesn’t...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved”

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Was Paul a husband?

marks 1:20 mercy 1:16 debate

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii But Paul may be sparing putting her name for all time in his letter which he knows will form scripture. Paul speaks about tho...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii But Paul may be sparing putting her name for all time in his letter which h

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Paul use such a rare word for this when commonly und...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Pa

1T 2:2 debate

@EkIesou @ronhenzel “The woman” cannot refer to Eve because she is the subject o

@EkIesou @ronhenzel “The woman” cannot refer to Eve because she is the subject of v15 which states “she will be saved (future)…if (conditional) they (do something)…” Eve’s future salvation cannot be

@EkIesou @ronhenzel The definite article is in v14 showing that the previous use

@EkIesou @ronhenzel The definite article is in v14 showing that the previous use of the anarthrous is meant to be specific and not general. Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to instruct “specific people”

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is speaking about a specific woman because of the articl...

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is spe

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-17

@Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @peace_got @BeUrKey @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @

@Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @peace_got @BeUrKey @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Your first point is exactly right! Why do you think Paul is referr

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-17

@DrZPl @haymes_joshua @Blogsbloke I think Payne lists something like 15 lexicons

@DrZPl @haymes_joshua @Blogsbloke I think Payne lists something like 15 lexicons that support source. Nevermind though because this isn’t a game of percentages. It is the *context* that determines Pau

@johnmarkallen @SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua We have to note what specifically Paul is referring to about the first man and woman. He refers to the time sequence order and how it has something to do with one being deceived and one not deceived. This ...

@johnmarkallen @SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua We have to note what specifically Paul is referring to about the first man and woman. He refers to the time sequence order and how it has something to do w

@johnmarkallen @SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua That’s right but the problem is only there if you don’t understand that Paul was not prohibiting godly women from teaching truth but only those who were teaching serious error. Why would he ever prohibit ...

@johnmarkallen @SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua That’s right but the problem is only there if you don’t understand that Paul was not prohibiting godly women from teaching truth but only those who were te

@SolaChristus7 @johnmarkallen @haymes_joshua "ALL Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be fully capable, equipped for every good work...

@SolaChristus7 @johnmarkallen @haymes_joshua "ALL Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God

2Ti 3:16-17 debate

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Hmm. I don’t see that. I see Paul using the Adam and Eve as prototypes of this particular married couple in Ephesus. This see...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Hmm. I don’t see that. I see Paul using the Adam and Eve as prototypes of t

@peace_got @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Mor

@peace_got @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii There is no such prohibition. Paul never used the normal word for authority