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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-25

@thomas1sams @MikeWingerii I think we still struggle with the same problems. But

@thomas1sams @MikeWingerii I think we still struggle with the same problems. But the issue I have with how this is characterized is that this is somehow proof that women cannot co-lead their families

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-25

@Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii Whether the men take greater risks or not has nothing to do with the truth that women are not forbidden from serving as elders. Further, I can demonstrate that there are many women who have risked their lives for the gos...

@Whitehorse1255 @MikeWingerii Whether the men take greater risks or not has nothing to do with the truth that women are not forbidden from serving as elders. Further, I can demonstrate that there are

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 We have elders. As I said, it is clear from Paul's writings that b

@Methodios007 We have elders. As I said, it is clear from Paul's writings that bishop and elder are used interchangeably. It doesn't really matter what you call them. What matters is their qualificati

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@BahBahBased @smashbaals I am convinced by scripture that women are not excluded

@BahBahBased @smashbaals I am convinced by scripture that women are not excluded from serving as elders or pastoral work like counselling or leadership roles.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@BahBahBased @smashbaals No, I am not. Pastoring is counselling and guiding and leading by example, all things that elders, overseers or shepherds do. Females are not exempt from these roles. In fact, it is far better for a female to be counseled by ...

@BahBahBased @smashbaals No, I am not. Pastoring is counselling and guiding and leading by example, all things that elders, overseers or shepherds do. Females are not exempt from these roles. In fact,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 We don’t use Greek terms. We just call them elders or overseers.

@Methodios007 We don’t use Greek terms. We just call them elders or overseers.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@Methodios007 Bishops / overseers / elders are all used interchangeably in scrip

@Methodios007 Bishops / overseers / elders are all used interchangeably in scripture.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@JulieCobbe @smashbaals How is serving the church a mind set in the flesh? Elder

@JulieCobbe @smashbaals How is serving the church a mind set in the flesh? Elders and pastors are slaves of Christ. At least they should be.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@HasDiscernment @smashbaals What if she serves because she understands the Bible

@HasDiscernment @smashbaals What if she serves because she understands the Bible doesn’t forbid women from serving as elders and pastors? How is this prideful?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-14

@cityoftheplain9 @smashbaals Usually there are multiple elders in a church. Is i

@cityoftheplain9 @smashbaals Usually there are multiple elders in a church. Is it a church if you have at least one male elder??

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-10

@pastherandie @JosiahHawthorne @JayMallow3 Also, if someone is “spreading propaganda” of any kind, the *kind* and *loving* thing to do is correct them. Elders must be able to patiently correct (2Ti 4:2– “with great patience.”) Imagine someone who cam...

@pastherandie @JosiahHawthorne @JayMallow3 Also, if someone is “spreading propaganda” of any kind, the *kind* and *loving* thing to do is correct them. Elders must be able to patiently correct (2Ti 4:

2Ti 4:2 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-09

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Elders are pastors, so yes.

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii Elders are pastors, so yes.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-09

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii The model is multiple elders with those who

@leahtrell @iheartJ37 @MikeWingerii The model is multiple elders with those who are gifted and qualified being recognized so that the church can go to them for help. Women having the option to go to q

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@peace_got @Protestia That was my point: you can either be in rebellion to what you believe the text says, or like me, actually following what the text teaches as I have shown it does not forbid female elders. You don’t have to agree with my interpr...

@peace_got @Protestia That was my point: you can either be in rebellion to what you believe the text says, or like me, actually following what the text teaches as I have shown it does not forbid femal

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-08

@Milocinia @spencer_newell @MikeWingerii That verse doesn’t say “an elder must not be a woman”—there is no verse that says a man is allowed to authentein anyone either. Jesus said clearly that whoever wants to be the greatest should be the slave of a...

@Milocinia @spencer_newell @MikeWingerii That verse doesn’t say “an elder must not be a woman”—there is no verse that says a man is allowed to authentein anyone either. Jesus said clearly that whoever

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-07

@MikeWingerii You’re almost there, Mike! By the same reasoning, women are not ex

@MikeWingerii You’re almost there, Mike! By the same reasoning, women are not excluded from serving as elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-06

@ThomisticRednek @AnneEChisholm @FrMatthewLC The bunch of churches you are refer

@ThomisticRednek @AnneEChisholm @FrMatthewLC The bunch of churches you are referring to are all the one church of Christ if they hold to the fundamentals of the faith. Male-only elders is not a found

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-10-06

@1deaman @ProGloriaRegis @SamAshCast @Brian_Sauve And by that very same reasonin

@1deaman @ProGloriaRegis @SamAshCast @Brian_Sauve And by that very same reasoning women are not excluded in 1Ti 3 from being overseers or elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-25

@JCalebJones @Phil_Johnson_ Mt 18 is still not being followed here, IMO. The purpose of 1 or 2 witnesses is to 'confirm every fact' (Mt 18:16), & those witnesses are to stand before the entire church if he is unrepentant (Mt 18:17). Elders that a...

@JCalebJones @Phil_Johnson_ Mt 18 is still not being followed here, IMO. The purpose of 1 or 2 witnesses is to 'confirm every fact' (Mt 18:16), & those witnesses are to stand before the entire chu

1Ti 5:20 Mt 18:16 Mt 18:17 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-22

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Well, those who have additional responsibility for the proper functioning of the church should lead in this⎯by leading, I mean demonstrating the very things that all should emulate. Elders are not called to 'lord it over' ...

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Well, those who have additional responsibility for the proper functioning of the church should lead in this⎯by leading, I mean demonstrating the very things that all should

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-22

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Admonishing is not the sole privilege of elders. http

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Admonishing is not the sole privilege of elders. https://t.co/rMFoNl7V72

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-21

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Jesus is the one who knows what He wants for His own church. And Jesus purposely excluded any mention of elders because it is not up to the elders to carry out church discipline, but the church. Jesus' words were not meant...

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist Jesus is the one who knows what He wants for His own church. And Jesus purposely excluded any mention of elders because it is not up to the elders to carry out church discip

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-21

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist The final say in Matt 18 for church discipline is the

@ymmotrojam @YourCalvinist The final say in Matt 18 for church discipline is the entire church. Elders are not even mentioned.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-20

@carol66944 Hm. But we still have fellowship with those who believe only men can

@carol66944 Hm. But we still have fellowship with those who believe only men can be elders and pastors, right?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-19

@Tailfeathers_WA @QuixoteSword Mat 13:12? What are you taking away from me that I have? The fact is that some accept female elders and pastors in rejection of the text. Others, like me, carefully study and conclude that the text is consistent with f...

@Tailfeathers_WA @QuixoteSword Mat 13:12? What are you taking away from me that I have? The fact is that some accept female elders and pastors in rejection of the text. Others, like me, carefully stu

Mat 13:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-17

@The_njp @MikeWingerii Whether the office of elder is limited to males only or n

@The_njp @MikeWingerii Whether the office of elder is limited to males only or not is secondary. Primary are things that unify all Christians and also matters of sin. Egalitarians are not sinning pure

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-07

@DelaKram75 @Ryan_Adair_A Again, there were no pulpits in the early church. I pr

@DelaKram75 @Ryan_Adair_A Again, there were no pulpits in the early church. I presume, there were elders in every home church. What is the reason for the prohibition on preaching and teaching "from th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-09-06

@BoilerLevi @KaeleyT As an egalitarian, I’ve gotten along well in complementarian churches, though maybe it’s because my wife doesn’t feel led to preach or join the elders. Some comp churches won’t allow me to join the leadership team just for disagr...

@BoilerLevi @KaeleyT As an egalitarian, I’ve gotten along well in complementarian churches, though maybe it’s because my wife doesn’t feel led to preach or join the elders. Some comp churches won’t al

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-13

@ThatSarahLynn @JamMom89 @Yeshua438849431 @firegirl2510 @Chad4328 I’m confused—an entire set of requirements? Yes, Jesus is the “chief shepherd” and as such is the only one explicitly called out as a pastor. Peter exhorts the elders to shepherd. Ho...

@ThatSarahLynn @JamMom89 @Yeshua438849431 @firegirl2510 @Chad4328 I’m confused—an entire set of requirements? Yes, Jesus is the “chief shepherd” and as such is the only one explicitly called out as a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-08-01

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I was asked by the other elders of a church I was

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I was asked by the other elders of a church I was an elder at to step down. I declined. Was I obligated to step down?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I submitted to him by not forcing myself into leadership, but he doesn’t have the right to forbid what Jesus did not forbid, so he is in the wrong. If I am living in unrepentant sin and refuse to listen “even to the chu...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I submitted to him by not forcing myself into leadership, but he doesn’t have the right to forbid what Jesus did not forbid, so he is in the wrong. If I am living in unr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-31

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I’ve done that for non-elders too because I follow Eph 5:21. We are to subject ourselves to one another in the fear of Christ. I don’t ignore a brother or sister who says the same thing to me because they are not an elde...

@ravensfoodblog @MikeWingerii I’ve done that for non-elders too because I follow Eph 5:21. We are to subject ourselves to one another in the fear of Christ. I don’t ignore a brother or sister who says

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-13

@StevenMKestner @carol66944 @JoelWBerry Given that only two men—Peter and John—are explicitly referred to as elders in the NT (and it is self identification), I’m quite surprised Carol listed these two Old Testament women as examples of elders. Does...

@StevenMKestner @carol66944 @JoelWBerry Given that only two men—Peter and John—are explicitly referred to as elders in the NT (and it is self identification), I’m quite surprised Carol listed these tw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-10

@ronhenzel And the witnesses don't need to be elders. And this is not a gang up of those who don't like the person. “I solemnly exhort you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen angels, to maintain these principles without bias...

@ronhenzel And the witnesses don't need to be elders. And this is not a gang up of those who don't like the person. “I solemnly exhort you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of His chosen

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-07

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii Ok then, please show me who was explicitly called an elder? I'll help you: Peter and John are the only two and they self identify as elders. So out of 2 who self-identify you claim we don't have a woman mentioned as...

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii Ok then, please show me who was explicitly called an elder? I'll help you: Peter and John are the only two and they self identify as elders. So out of 2 who self-ide

1Ti 3:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-06

I find this statement from @MikeWingerii revealing. When someone says a woman cannot be a man I think of immutable differences not eldership. How do comps see the command for both to rule and women made in God’s image as limiting on women from autho...

I find this statement from @MikeWingerii revealing. When someone says a woman cannot be a man I think of immutable differences not eldership. How do comps see the command for both to rule and women m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@SteelSmack @MikeWingerii That’s true. Though I don’t think Mike believes that t

@SteelSmack @MikeWingerii That’s true. Though I don’t think Mike believes that the restriction on women from being elders or having authority which may be confused with that of elders is Paul’s opinio

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@mikeproverbs10 @severegrace @smashbaals Paul wasn’t commanding anyone to be pas

@mikeproverbs10 @severegrace @smashbaals Paul wasn’t commanding anyone to be pastors or elders. What are you talking about?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-24

@UrMomChoseLife @smashbaals You write “Paul clearly states women aren’t to teach the Bible or be elders” First, Paul wrote “a woman” and in the context of the letter, it had to do with teaching heresy, not teaching the truth of the Bible. And Paul n...

@UrMomChoseLife @smashbaals You write “Paul clearly states women aren’t to teach the Bible or be elders” First, Paul wrote “a woman” and in the context of the letter, it had to do with teaching heres

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-21

Brian thinks the elders should be called if his wife “rebels against her husband

Brian thinks the elders should be called if his wife “rebels against her husband.” So is this like if she doesn’t make the dinner he demands or doesn’t clean the house when he commands? So then a bunc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-19

@smashli1228 @BenZeisloft Technically, he doesn't believe women are allowed to b

@smashli1228 @BenZeisloft Technically, he doesn't believe women are allowed to be pastors or elders. I'm not sure that makes him a raging misogynist.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@RushiXmakima @SacrdCowTipping @MikeWingerii Yes, the church was to minister to

@RushiXmakima @SacrdCowTipping @MikeWingerii Yes, the church was to minister to each other! Elders have the gift of teaching and responsibility to correct but they are not the only ones to teach or pr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY teach younger wives? The point about them working at...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY te

Tit 2:3-5 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Further, there are egalitarian churches who are absolutely obeying God’s command

Further, there are egalitarian churches who are absolutely obeying God’s commands. They have studied and see how it’s not a sin for a woman to be in leadership. They see how no one is explicitly state

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Wolfe claims that churches are “proudly disobeying God’s clear commands for who

Wolfe claims that churches are “proudly disobeying God’s clear commands for who can be a pastor,” but last I checked, ‘pastor’ isn’t even mentioned in 1Ti 2:12 and 1Ti 3:1-13 has to do with elders who

1Ti 2:11-15 1Ti 2:12 1Ti 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-13

@Twinjeremiah @BenZeisloft The Greek is μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα or literally "one wife husband." This phrase is stated twice, once in v2 for elders and once in v12 for deacons. The NIV translates as "faithful to his wife" but I'm asserting that this is a...

@Twinjeremiah @BenZeisloft The Greek is μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα or literally "one wife husband." This phrase is stated twice, once in v2 for elders and once in v12 for deacons. The NIV translates as "fait

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@smashbaals The rest of us conservatives who don't think that the Bible forbids

@smashbaals The rest of us conservatives who don't think that the Bible forbids godly women from serving as pastors or elders are still here.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@avyargo @LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn “Likewise their wives” was a translation choice. Note “their” and “must be” are not in the Greek. The NASB says, “Likewise, women…” If ‘their wives’ is correct, why are the wives of deacons highlighted but not of ...

@avyargo @LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn “Likewise their wives” was a translation choice. Note “their” and “must be” are not in the Greek. The NASB says, “Likewise, women…” If ‘their wives’ is correct, wh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@Grump_Old_Man @DBryanRhodes @ronhenzel @Gates_of_Derry @CalebDixonSmith Complementarians exist in quite a range. My last church only prevented women from the lead pastor role. Some prevent women from any leadership role. Others prevent them from ser...

@Grump_Old_Man @DBryanRhodes @ronhenzel @Gates_of_Derry @CalebDixonSmith Complementarians exist in quite a range. My last church only prevented women from the lead pastor role. Some prevent women from

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@landjax @Charb_izard Elders have the authority to build up not to tear down. Th

@landjax @Charb_izard Elders have the authority to build up not to tear down. They have a responsibility and a service to perform which is not to take all the important tasks for themselves. Matt 18:

Matt 18:15-20 debate
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