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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@Unashamed_Chuck @RushiXmakima Yes, this has to do with the time sequence order of creation, not authority order. And the time sequence connects with deception. Ask yourself, how was it that Eve was deceived but Adam wasn’t when they both knew the co...

@Unashamed_Chuck @RushiXmakima Yes, this has to do with the time sequence order of creation, not authority order. And the time sequence connects with deception. Ask yourself, how was it that Eve was d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@Tibbetburritoo @harduppp @TxPlainZoomer @LaMonteMom @IAmNOTALao @WomnOfValor Paul is quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote to him (see 1Co 7:1). He refutes these men who are trying to silence half the body to bring order; Paul’s solution is ...

@Tibbetburritoo @harduppp @TxPlainZoomer @LaMonteMom @IAmNOTALao @WomnOfValor Paul is quoting from the letter the Corinthians wrote to him (see 1Co 7:1). He refutes these men who are trying to silence

1Co 7:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@mikeproverbs10 @JoanBandy @patriot49029471 @smashbaals Why does Paul use the si

@mikeproverbs10 @JoanBandy @patriot49029471 @smashbaals Why does Paul use the singular? Paul links the time sequence order of creation to why Eve was deceived—why? Who is “the woman” in v14? “She w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-20

@ReformaBro @JoInAthensGa @smugbuster88 @BenZeisloft Paul said that deception has to do with the time sequence in the creation order. Adam was not deceived because he was the ruler of Eve. Adam experiences God’s creative acts including the making of ...

@ReformaBro @JoInAthensGa @smugbuster88 @BenZeisloft Paul said that deception has to do with the time sequence in the creation order. Adam was not deceived because he was the ruler of Eve. Adam experi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-20

@B_______Q_____ @WrigsFL2 @BenZeisloft Paul uses Eve as a prototype of this situ

@B_______Q_____ @WrigsFL2 @BenZeisloft Paul uses Eve as a prototype of this situation in Ephesus. Eve was deceived and not Adam, this being because of the time sequence order of creation. https://t.co

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Why is it becoming “Tier 1” (primary)? Because he believes it is an attack on t

Why is it becoming “Tier 1” (primary)? Because he believes it is an attack on the created order. But what is the created order? It is God creating Adam in time sequence before Eve. How does time s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-14

@BeardedAcctant @SDungersheim @RuthAmyAllan What created order? You mean the time sequence order of creation? We all agree to that. But there is no hierarchy required or authority implied by a time sequence. Adam had more responsibility because he w...

@BeardedAcctant @SDungersheim @RuthAmyAllan What created order? You mean the time sequence order of creation? We all agree to that. But there is no hierarchy required or authority implied by a time se

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@herman_order @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning The only history that is authoritative is the history documented in scripture that matches the teaching of the apostles. Historical context means what was going on in the context of what is being describ...

@herman_order @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning The only history that is authoritative is the history documented in scripture that matches the teaching of the apostles. Historical context means what wa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@herman_order @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning So history is authoritative like

@herman_order @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning So history is authoritative like the Bible? I wonder if Luther understood that when he challenged the Pope.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-11

@CalebDixonSmith But if God’s perfect order before sin is that men lead and wome

@CalebDixonSmith But if God’s perfect order before sin is that men lead and women submit and follow then will His order change in the age to come? Women will also judge and sit on Jesus’ throne?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-11

@kings_cross_nwa @SindlandOz34748 Why do you have authority now as a believer but not all believers have the same authority? Do you believe that God’s perfect order from before the fall was women being subjected to men and always under their authori...

@kings_cross_nwa @SindlandOz34748 Why do you have authority now as a believer but not all believers have the same authority? Do you believe that God’s perfect order from before the fall was women bei

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-06

@pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @pastordmack Executive Order 13526, signed by President Obama, states: “The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by the President and, in the performance of executive duties, by the Vice Pres...

@pastherandie @ScottCross_8 @pastordmack Executive Order 13526, signed by President Obama, states: “The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by the President and, in the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@3GNRTX But you are taking order to mean hierarchy when Paul simply was referrin

@3GNRTX But you are taking order to mean hierarchy when Paul simply was referring to the sequential time sequence of creation and that this is why one wasn’t deceived but the other was.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@LogicSaysBurn Paul said it had to do with the time sequence order of creation w

@LogicSaysBurn Paul said it had to do with the time sequence order of creation which had a connection to why one was deceived and the other was not. Your idea that this has anything to do with authori

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 I am following Paul’s reasoning: the order of creation has something

@coramdeo1 I am following Paul’s reasoning: the order of creation has something to do with being deceived or not. That was Paul’s point. And your point is that being created first is about rule and a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 God deals with the man first—why? Why does God not ask Eve why she di

@coramdeo1 God deals with the man first—why? Why does God not ask Eve why she didn’t submit to Adam’s rule? Why does this have anything to do with deception when it is really all about not following G

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

@coramdeo1 Comps are speculating that creation order is about hierarchy and authority. What evidence is there that authority structures are present between the man and the woman in Gen 2-3? You claim that the serpent violates the order by approachi...

@coramdeo1 Comps are speculating that creation order is about hierarchy and authority. What evidence is there that authority structures are present between the man and the woman in Gen 2-3? You clai

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-30

@HeGTiSunesis Paul’s identifying Eve as the one who was deceived had to do with the time creation order of Adam and Eve. Adam was created at a point in time where he was able to watch as God created other animals and plants/trees including the tree o...

@HeGTiSunesis Paul’s identifying Eve as the one who was deceived had to do with the time creation order of Adam and Eve. Adam was created at a point in time where he was able to watch as God created o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-29

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham You keep referring to “God’s created order”

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham You keep referring to “God’s created order” when all I see pre-fall is God commanding them both to rule (Gen 1:28). What am I missing here Rob?

Gen 1:28 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-29

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham I’m not sure what you are referring to abou

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham I’m not sure what you are referring to about the “natural order of creation”—you mean that the man was created first in time sequence before the woman?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@lilyswaller You are right to ask questions like this. The scriptures indicate t

@lilyswaller You are right to ask questions like this. The scriptures indicate that the time order of creation has something to do with one being deceived and the other not. Targeting the one that can

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@DabDabChill Actually the order is: 1. Christ -> all men 2. A husband -> a

@DabDabChill Actually the order is: 1. Christ -> all men 2. A husband -> a wife 3. God -> Christ Now why isn’t it in hierarchical order as you suggested?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@ronhenzel @carol66944 Paul is identifying two things: the time order of the cre

@ronhenzel @carol66944 Paul is identifying two things: the time order of the creation of Adam and Eve and that this was why Adam wasn’t deceived but Eve was. Whatever teaching you are inferring about

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-17

In context, Lewis writes that the push for equality is a safeguard against tyran

In context, Lewis writes that the push for equality is a safeguard against tyranny because of sin. He believes that authority and obedience are part of the divine order but because of the fall, got co

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-17

Finally, patriarchal structures are not part of God's original design, but are a

Finally, patriarchal structures are not part of God's original design, but are a result of human sin and societal evolution away from God's ideal (Gen 3:16). The return to God’s intended order is wha

2Cor 5:17 Gen 3:16 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-17

🧵In his Space Trilogy, Lewis 'imagines' a pre-Fall patriarchal order. 🫡 What wa

🧵In his Space Trilogy, Lewis 'imagines' a pre-Fall patriarchal order. 🫡 What was Lewis smoking? Here's why this concept is biblically flawed.👇 https://t.co/ws3dMbZngz https://t.co/K7FJUQSK3n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-12

@ronhenzel BTW, those bishops became very angry at the insistence that God booby trapped humanity in order that they would fall so that they would be dependent on Him to rescue them. But this is exactly the setup they created. LDS teaching requires...

@ronhenzel BTW, those bishops became very angry at the insistence that God booby trapped humanity in order that they would fall so that they would be dependent on Him to rescue them. But this is exac

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @Wictor2501 @SpringSteps @TulipPatriot That verse was actually direc

@ymmotrojam @Wictor2501 @SpringSteps @TulipPatriot That verse was actually directed at Timothy “the you” (second person singular)—how *Timothy* ought to behave in order to deal with the issues surroun

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, decency and order⎯all participating, but not all at the same time. Not the order that recognizes some people as more important than others! That would be doing the same thing that Paul c...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, decency and order⎯all participating, but not all at the same time. Not the order that recognizes some people as more important than othe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals I'm not sure how you got "order" out of this and are then using this to suggest that it is not appropriate for a woman to speak or ask questions⎯that would be a completely different sort of t...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals I'm not sure how you got "order" out of this and are then using this to suggest that it is not appropriate for a woman to speak or ask questi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But again, you want to use "all" to mean literally "all can learn" but want the first all in the same verse ("all can prophesy") to apply to only the men? The fact that they are to do it in ...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But again, you want to use "all" to mean literally "all can learn" but want the first all in the same verse ("all can prophesy") to apply to

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@lunarCelerity Here are a few reasons. In Greek, word ordering isn’t the same as in English. There is no boldface so by putting a word first you emphasize it like bolding. Most translators are men and they come to the text with a bias towards men and...

@lunarCelerity Here are a few reasons. In Greek, word ordering isn’t the same as in English. There is no boldface so by putting a word first you emphasize it like bolding. Most translators are men and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Responding to Ron's points: Paul specifically points to deception and the time order of creation. Because he mentions Eve, "the childbearing" is a reference to the seed of the woman. Paul is extending the same grace to the de...

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Responding to Ron's points: Paul specifically points to deception and the time order of creation. Because he mentions Eve, "the childbearing" is a reference to the seed of the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@John11428000 @MikeWingerii It would seem that Mike is pressing his conscience o

@John11428000 @MikeWingerii It would seem that Mike is pressing his conscience on others. If he truly believes it is secondary, he needs to learn to tolerate it as a secondary difference even if he th

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus couldn’t be an elder in His own church! The require...

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus co

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-16

@johnmarkallen @SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua We have to note what specifically Paul is referring to about the first man and woman. He refers to the time sequence order and how it has something to do with one being deceived and one not deceived. This ...

@johnmarkallen @SolaChristus7 @haymes_joshua We have to note what specifically Paul is referring to about the first man and woman. He refers to the time sequence order and how it has something to do w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul is establishing order. The way church is done today is nothing like what Paul describes in 1Ti 3. Today it is all about position and authority; ...

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul is establishing order. The way church is done today is nothing like what Paul describes in 1Ti

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-15

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul gives the proper order for dealing with false doctrine. A properly functioning leadership will curb false teaching by gently dealing with it. As...

@jhkrantz @pastherandie @ronhenzel @Christ_like_ish @JollyStine @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Paul gives the proper order for dealing with false doctrine. A properly functioning leadership will

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@ncksmith @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Mike sees male-only leadership as simply a matter of ordained order. He learns from women theologians, behaves in an egalitarian manner towards decision making with his wife, and is generally wanting women to pa...

@ncksmith @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii Mike sees male-only leadership as simply a matter of ordained order. He learns from women theologians, behaves in an egalitarian manner towards decision making w

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-14

@JonKismetCalvin @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Based on as charitable a reading as I can make for Mike, to him this is about following God’s order even if it might not make sense. He claims to...

@JonKismetCalvin @ScottCross_8 @peace_got @pastherandie @5pur5y @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Based on as charitable a reading as I can make for Mike, to him this is about following God’s o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-12

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Order means ti

@peace_got @JoanBandy @CharmyRosewolf @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Order means time sequence not hierarchy of authority. I mean animals were made before Adam and they don’t rule him. The Jews were firs

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-11

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence has to do with one being deceived and another not. ...

@peace_got @pastherandie @MikeWingerii Paul is not a husband. Is he disqualified? Order of creation does not mean hierarchy, it means time sequence order. So something related to the time sequence ha

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-10

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett Mike sees the creation order as in hierarchy order rather than time-sequence order. This is where he go...

@Crystalisives @MikeWingerii @CherylSchatz @ryancduff @will_servant @CharmyRosewolf @Ichthusproject @bkr8un @pastherandie @JollyStine @jdpritchett Mike sees the creation order as in hierarchy order ra

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

"For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who wa

"For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived…” (1Ti 2:13-14a). This is all about the time order of creation, not authority and hierarchy. Adam being cre

1Ti 2:13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-09

@deadtosin610 @ServBotPhil @JollyStine Paul said that it was something about the time order of creation (Adam was formed first) that had something to do with him not being deceived. When you look at Gen 2 more closely, you see verbal forms used showi...

@deadtosin610 @ServBotPhil @JollyStine Paul said that it was something about the time order of creation (Adam was formed first) that had something to do with him not being deceived. When you look at G

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-06

@JonKismetCalvin I wasn’t quite able to determine if you are in agreement or disagreement here. Exegesis is a difficult but necessary task. And we need to approach the text in an inductive way. I like how Kay Arthur teaches on this. Also, in order ...

@JonKismetCalvin I wasn’t quite able to determine if you are in agreement or disagreement here. Exegesis is a difficult but necessary task. And we need to approach the text in an inductive way. I lik

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

Because if it was a sin, then the Bible would clearly outline what is and what i

Because if it was a sin, then the Bible would clearly outline what is and what is not allowed. "God is not a God of disorder, but of peace" (1Co 14:33). Despite the lack of clarity on these policies

1Co 14:33 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

I think Mike sees himself as a one man council, like the council of Nicea, comin

I think Mike sees himself as a one man council, like the council of Nicea, coming up with a new statement on how men and women should relate in order to fulfill the complementarian view of scripture.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-03

However, laying down one's life is actually laying down your own needs and desir

However, laying down one's life is actually laying down your own needs and desires in order to come under and lift up another to satisfy their needs and/or desires. Perhaps he was just saying that re

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-28

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You are inferring that in order for her husband to fulfill his role as her authority (ie. by sitting in the gate of the city), that she has to deal with stuff around the home. Nowhere is this text saying that he is her aut...

@BogdanOancea77 @JoanBandy You are inferring that in order for her husband to fulfill his role as her authority (ie. by sitting in the gate of the city), that she has to deal with stuff around the hom

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