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@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeW

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii No, they are there to teach us something. No sharpie required. The fact that Paul is refuting what these Judiaze

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JoanBandy @MariusM38610501 Here’s how I parse this out. I plan on putting up a

@JoanBandy @MariusM38610501 Here’s how I parse this out. I plan on putting up a full exegesis of 1Co 11:1-16 soon, just haven’t gotten to it quite yet. https://t.co/jWoZ6UsU1Z

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@MariusM38610501 Everything flows from the start of Paul’s argument. He commends the Corinthians for following the traditions he has conveyed to them. In this case, the tradition to not cover their heads was in view. However, there was some problems ...

@MariusM38610501 Everything flows from the start of Paul’s argument. He commends the Corinthians for following the traditions he has conveyed to them. In this case, the tradition to not cover their he

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@lunarCelerity Here are a few reasons. In Greek, word ordering isn’t the same as in English. There is no boldface so by putting a word first you emphasize it like bolding. Most translators are men and they come to the text with a bias towards men and...

@lunarCelerity Here are a few reasons. In Greek, word ordering isn’t the same as in English. There is no boldface so by putting a word first you emphasize it like bolding. Most translators are men and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@jmmooreo Not that I found. It’s really just the misplacement of the “not” which

@jmmooreo Not that I found. It’s really just the misplacement of the “not” which inverts the meaning. But we can readily see what nature teaches from direct observation.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ortrails This isn’t about what happens to some men as if it was about losing ou

@ortrails This isn’t about what happens to some men as if it was about losing our hair covering then Paul would be advocating for the *men* to cover their bald heads. Here’s what this passage means. h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The vi

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The view that Paul is silencing unruly women in all the churches doesn’t make sense of the details in these verses. The only v

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons. About 1Co 14:34-45. Philip Payne thinks these vers...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons.

1Co 14:34-45 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-12 is about a specific woman appears to be the ext...

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Responding to Ron's points: Paul specifically points to deception and the time order of creation. Because he mentions Eve, "the childbearing" is a reference to the seed of the woman. Paul is extending the same grace to the de...

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Responding to Ron's points: Paul specifically points to deception and the time order of creation. Because he mentions Eve, "the childbearing" is a reference to the seed of the

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@ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, you are putting artificial constraints on the text. Why does Paul have to give women permission separately when his instructions are meant for all? "For you can ALL proph...

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, you are putting artificial constraints on the text. Why does Paul have to give women permission separately when his instr

1Co 14:31 question

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Yes, “a woman… the woman”—and in 1Ti 2:11-15, we have “a woman… the woman” with the details that she is deceived and teaching heresy and her husband is not deceived and being silent because of Paul’s connection with Adam and E...

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Yes, “a woman… the woman”—and in 1Ti 2:11-15, we have “a woman… the woman” with the details that she is deceived and teaching heresy and her husband is not deceived and being s

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@ronhenzel Further, this is why Paul reaches to a classical Greek word to get a very specific meaning: “to commit murder of one’s own kin by one’s own hand”—like how Eve handed the fruit to Adam and he ate and brought death to humanity, so also this ...

@ronhenzel Further, this is why Paul reaches to a classical Greek word to get a very specific meaning: “to commit murder of one’s own kin by one’s own hand”—like how Eve handed the fruit to Adam and h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@ronhenzel In isolation, it is generic. In the context of v14 where you have the noun repeated with the article, no you have a possibility it is specific. You have to ask questions like, “Is it referring to Eve or someone else? Why did Paul shift fro...

@ronhenzel In isolation, it is generic. In the context of v14 where you have the noun repeated with the article, no you have a possibility it is specific. You have to ask questions like, “Is it referr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-21

@MythosMayhem @ronhenzel It says “saved through THE childbearing”—it is a definite noun, not a verb. Given that in the context, Paul is referring to Eve and connecting her situation as a prototype of a specific wife teaching heresy in Ephesus, Paul ...

@MythosMayhem @ronhenzel It says “saved through THE childbearing”—it is a definite noun, not a verb. Given that in the context, Paul is referring to Eve and connecting her situation as a prototype of

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeW

@JoanBandy @MariusM38610501 Here’s how I parse this out. I plan on putting up a

@MariusM38610501 Everything flows from the start of Paul’s argument. He commends the Corinthians for following the traditions he has conveyed to them. In this case, the tradition to not cover their heads was in view. However, there was some problems ...

@lunarCelerity Here are a few reasons. In Greek, word ordering isn’t the same as in English. There is no boldface so by putting a word first you emphasize it like bolding. Most translators are men and they come to the text with a bias towards men and...

@jmmooreo Not that I found. It’s really just the misplacement of the “not” which

@ortrails This isn’t about what happens to some men as if it was about losing ou

@JollyStine @ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii The vi

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Wow, Ron, you think everyone always agrees? So you agree with all complementarians? Mike Winger thinks women can be deacons. About 1Co 14:34-45. Philip Payne thinks these vers...

@JollyStine @PrinceDean78489 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @MargMowczko Thanks for sharing, Christine. You have been a huge help replying to challenges as I can’t keep up. Unfortunately, that 1Ti 2:11-12 is about a specific woman appears to be the ext...

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Responding to Ron's points: Paul specifically points to deception and the time order of creation. Because he mentions Eve, "the childbearing" is a reference to the seed of the woman. Paul is extending the same grace to the de...

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine @pastherandie @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, you are putting artificial constraints on the text. Why does Paul have to give women permission separately when his instructions are meant for all? "For you can ALL proph...

@gzulbaran10 @ronhenzel Yes, “a woman… the woman”—and in 1Ti 2:11-15, we have “a woman… the woman” with the details that she is deceived and teaching heresy and her husband is not deceived and being silent because of Paul’s connection with Adam and E...

@ronhenzel Further, this is why Paul reaches to a classical Greek word to get a very specific meaning: “to commit murder of one’s own kin by one’s own hand”—like how Eve handed the fruit to Adam and he ate and brought death to humanity, so also this ...

@ronhenzel In isolation, it is generic. In the context of v14 where you have the noun repeated with the article, no you have a possibility it is specific. You have to ask questions like, “Is it referring to Eve or someone else? Why did Paul shift fro...

@MythosMayhem @ronhenzel It says “saved through THE childbearing”—it is a definite noun, not a verb. Given that in the context, Paul is referring to Eve and connecting her situation as a prototype of a specific wife teaching heresy in Ephesus, Paul ...

@ronhenzel Especially in the context where we have *two* anarthrous nouns. How do we decide? What is Paul intending in the context? Why not the personal pronoun? How is a generic woman saved through ‘the childbearing’ when not all women bear children...

@ScottCross_8 @KyleYoakum Is there anything in the context of Paul’s letter that

@ronhenzel I asked that question about “what is ‘woman generically’” as I wanted

@ronhenzel That’s not how this works, Ron. You are just appealing to authority as if you or Wallace, despite all the training in Greek and grammar, are someone completely infallible and never make mistakes. Generic nouns are not unique to Greek. The...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, this is not a defeater of my assertion that “the woman” is an anaphoric reference to “a woman.” Without v14 and the article, we would have more reason to consider vs11-12 ...

@ronhenzel Yeah, so I really do love Wallace, but it doesn’t mean all his conclusions are right. “A woman” is generic until we hit v14 where we clearly see the anaphoric use of the article. There’s nothing in Wallace’s Greek Grammar Beyond the Basic...

@KyleYoakum @ScottCross_8 I’ll have to take a look at what Bruce said but “symbo

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus couldn’t be an elder in His own church! The require...

@carol66944 Interesting proposition. Where is the “declarative infinitive” discu

@CharmyRosewolf @jmmooreo Payne it seems would pick option 2, but he also agrees with option 3. “On account of the angels: The context here is worship, and Paul refers to angels in the context of worship elsewhere. Earlier in 1 Corinthians he wrote:...

@ScottCross_8 @ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii What Ron said is disingenuous. He knows that this has nothing to do with beginner Greek. I can even show Dr Wallace saying that the article is not required to poi...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Your s

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii From Dr. Wallace in Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: “Most individualizing articles will be anaphoric in a very broad sense. That is, they will be used to point out something t...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii Ron, y

@Torncurtainorg @ScottCross_8 @JollyStine @DustyMayT @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii In addition to Scott's question, my question is why the physical aspect of protection has anything to do with leadership in church. Women have the instinc...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii This is where Mike Winger’s statements get messy. Because he says it’s a secondary issue and egalitarians are beloved family and brothers and sisters in Christ, but the...

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. K

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingeri

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Mike says he is a soft complementarian but he doesn't like using the word soft as he thinks it does affect all of life even outside of church and family. However, he be...

@ymmotrojam @russ_hjelm @HeGTiSunesis So called "exceptions" actually shows us t

@Aub42 Fair. It's more important once people start acting on difficult passages like this and using them to suppress women. But when you understand what it really means, you get a really great appreciation for what God wants us to understand in scrip...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the home. If she is fortunate enough to have kids, sh...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingeri

@Zoey_Granitz 😂. PS&gt; Those same women, when they leave the church building a

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii My wife was mostly complementarian as she didn't really want the responsibility. I enjoyed being a kid too and not having to be responsible for things, but we all need...

@russ_hjelm Well, in that case, women would have authority! 😉

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii You are a very sincere guy and have a good heart. You make a great complementarian. No matter, you are still wrong. What would it take to convince you that the egalit...

@carmony_bryce Huh? There's a lot of protestant churches that forbid women from

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine “I think men should have short hair still”

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians time to catch up and many believe that as long as...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1,5 (elect lady) and vs 13 (chosen sister)? Also, w...

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii No. All you need to do is go back to the same letter Paul made the reference in… 1Co 6:2-3. Just read it. It will make perfect sense. If women will judge angels, then SURELY they have the ability to decide whether to...

@JollyStine @rr74cm @MikeWingerii Plus it’s based on the interpretation which ha

@rr74cm @MikeWingerii @JollyStine No, you don’t go all the way back to Gen 6 and think that for 2 hours in a church service that a head covering keeps them from being tempted by the women. Can angels see them without their head coverings in their hom...

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional

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@ronhenzel Especially in the context where we have two anarthrous nouns. How do we decide? What is Paul intending in the context? Why not the personal pronoun? How is a generic woman saved through ‘the childbearing’ when not all women bear children...

@Zoey_Granitz 😂. PS> Those same women, when they leave the church building a