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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Here's an actual early Greek manuscript (P46) from Romans 12, something written by Paul. https://t.co/saOXJexSY6 Pretty clear there's no punctuation or spacing. You have to be great and...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Here's an actual early Greek manuscript (P46) from Romans 12, something written by Paul. https://t.co/saOXJexSY6 Pretty clear there's no

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Ok, Arthur, you are showing your ignorance here. Ephesians was written by Paul in the New Testament. See the dots under "subject yourselves" in verse 22? That means it's not in the Gre...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Ok, Arthur, you are showing your ignorance here. Ephesians was written by Paul in the New Testament. See the dots under "subject yourse

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Verse 22 doesn’t have the verb submit in it. Check it out. So if verse 21 is true then verse 22 CANNOT mean that wives are like the slaves of their husbands. That’s actually how the cu...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @LifeWithoutLack @DrFrankTurek Verse 22 doesn’t have the verb submit in it. Check it out. So if verse 21 is true then verse 22 CANNOT mean that wives are like the sla

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek The only connection with God’s order was deception. At least that’s how Paul parses Gen 1-3 in 1 Tim 2:11-15. It’s not about authority. It’s about a man who had been given knowledge completely failing ...

@LauraRicha42528 @_nomadic_soul @DrFrankTurek The only connection with God’s order was deception. At least that’s how Paul parses Gen 1-3 in 1 Tim 2:11-15. It’s not about authority. It’s about a ma

1 Tim 2:11-15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

3/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 2) Context in 1 Timothy 2:1-10 In Chapter

3/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 2) Context in 1 Timothy 2:1-10 In Chapter 2 and following the context of false teaching, Paul gives instructions on dealing with various related issues. ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:1-10 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

4/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 3) 1 Timothy 2:11-12 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 4-1. Paul then switches to the singular form in verse 11 (singular feminine) when he gives the command that "a woman" must receive instruction in quietness and in full submission to...

4/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 3) 1 Timothy 2:11-12 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 4-1. Paul then switches to the singular form in verse 11 (singular feminine) when he gives the command that "a woman" must receive

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-12 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-20

5/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 4) 1 Timothy 2:13-14 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 5-1. In 1 Tim 2:13-14, Paul relates the problem back to Genesis where the first one created is connected to not being deceived.  Adam is not connected to authority but to that of no...

5/🧵 Exposition of 1 Tim 2:11-15 (part 4) 1 Timothy 2:13-14 ⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯⎯ 5-1. In 1 Tim 2:13-14, Paul relates the problem back to Genesis where the first one created is connected to not being deceived.  Ad

1 Tim 2:11-15 1 Tim 2:13-14 1 Timothy 2:13-14 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-19

@ianfranklin @MikeWingerii People interpret it that way but it is not what Paul

@ianfranklin @MikeWingerii People interpret it that way but it is not what Paul meant. I think what Paul meant is important…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-19

@MikeWingerii This is precisely how I was able to understand that in 1 Tim 2:11-

@MikeWingerii This is precisely how I was able to understand that in 1 Tim 2:11-15 Paul was not preventing all women from teaching others (including men).

1 Tim 2:11-15 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-15

@L_T_Pearson @Buffalo2Storm @JustinPetersMin "...then Paul meet Peter, who would have taught more to Paul." I don't see any evidence that Peter taught anything to Paul as Paul said "they added nothing to my message." Consider the evidence. Paul sp...

@L_T_Pearson @Buffalo2Storm @JustinPetersMin "...then Paul meet Peter, who would have taught more to Paul." I don't see any evidence that Peter taught anything to Paul as Paul said "they added nothin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-14

@MikeWingerii Paul does not say a command. He says “I do not permit” which is n

@MikeWingerii Paul does not say a command. He says “I do not permit” which is not in the imperative. Paul uses the singular. Further, since Paul is writing a personal letter to Timothy, we shouldn’

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-12

@jenniferfox88 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, everyone says this is clear, but no one seems to be able to explain all the details of this passage. - Why is Paul using singular instead of plural if his instruction applies to all women? Or is it only a married...

@jenniferfox88 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, everyone says this is clear, but no one seems to be able to explain all the details of this passage. - Why is Paul using singular instead of plural if his instruct

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-07-07

@CvilleHoosier @MikeWingerii However, IF there was a particular woman and man and Paul wanted to refer to her and him without naming them, how else would he do it? Also, ‘a woman’ in 1Tim2:11,12 is an anaphoric reference to ’the woman’ in 1Tim2:14 s...

@CvilleHoosier @MikeWingerii However, IF there was a particular woman and man and Paul wanted to refer to her and him without naming them, how else would he do it? Also, ‘a woman’ in 1Tim2:11,12 is a

1Tim2:11 1Tim2:14 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-26

@richardthenry @DennyBurk Why do you say women when the text says ‘a woman’? Paul knows how to use the plural, so why didn’t he? Why did he say ‘I‘ do not permit? Is this a command from God or guidance from Paul to Timothy? But it is not an imper...

@richardthenry @DennyBurk Why do you say women when the text says ‘a woman’? Paul knows how to use the plural, so why didn’t he? Why did he say ‘I‘ do not permit? Is this a command from God or guid

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-24

@_JustWriting @TomBuck @DaveSmith2019 Paul writes “I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man…”. Some questions: - Why does Paul say “I do not” instead of “God doesn’t”? - When Paul clearly knows how to use the plural of women in v...

@_JustWriting @TomBuck @DaveSmith2019 Paul writes “I do not permit a woman to teach or have authority over a man…”. Some questions: - Why does Paul say “I do not” instead of “God doesn’t”? - When Paul

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-23

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I read Paul’s comments in the SAME letter where he says similar things about women ruling their homes to help understand that what he means in 1 Tim 3 can certainly include women (in Paul’...

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I read Paul’s comments in the SAME letter where he says similar things about women ruling their homes to help understand that what he mean

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-23

@Thygar @AngelaGraceLOU @L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin What came after John’s Baptism is not exactly minor. The had to explain “the way of God more accurately.” Yes, Apollos was important and was instrumental in the growth of the church at Corinth. ...

@Thygar @AngelaGraceLOU @L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin What came after John’s Baptism is not exactly minor. The had to explain “the way of God more accurately.” Yes, Apollos was important and was ins

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 4. Paul came to Prisca and Aquila. Then Timothy c

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 4. Paul came to Prisca and Aquila. Then Timothy came down to Paul, so there is a connection with both being with Paul (Act 18:2-5). Paul asks Timothy to greet Prisca an

2 Tim 4:19 Act 18:2-5 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 3 (cont). From LBD: "Later in Ac18, Prisca and Aquila accompany Paul to Eph on his way to Syria. ...They then support his desire to preach in Achaia by sending a letter of rec to...Corinth. Paul’s acceptance of Apollos ...

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 3 (cont). From LBD: "Later in Ac18, Prisca and Aquila accompany Paul to Eph on his way to Syria. ...They then support his desire to preach in Achaia by sending a letter

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 2. Prisca (or some say Priscilla) and Aquila were not "disciples" of Paul. 3. Prisca is known to the churches of Asia. It appears obvious that they would have been known by the apostles. Prisca is known to Luke as he wr...

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin 2. Prisca (or some say Priscilla) and Aquila were not "disciples" of Paul. 3. Prisca is known to the churches of Asia. It appears obvious that they would have been known

1 Cor 16:19-20 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin There were counterfeit letters from Paul so he frequently identified himself even writing at the end to show it was him (as his eyes were bad, so he wrote large letters). You are hypothesizing of course, which we have t...

@L_T_Pearson @JustinPetersMin There were counterfeit letters from Paul so he frequently identified himself even writing at the end to show it was him (as his eyes were bad, so he wrote large letters).

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin After giving the requirements for elders and deacons (with no male pronouns, but using the male gender), Paul says “women likewise” or in the same way or identically. He then says another point about de...

@L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin After giving the requirements for elders and deacons (with no male pronouns, but using the male gender), Paul says “women likewise” or in the same way or

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@scottspeig @rsbarrington @TomBuck 1. “Women likewise…” or in the same way (1Tim3:11) 2. 1Cor14:34-35 is Paul quoting from the Corinthians letter are refuting it (v36), see 1Cor7:1. 3. In 1Tim2:11-15, Paul refers to an ignorant woman teaching false d...

@scottspeig @rsbarrington @TomBuck 1. “Women likewise…” or in the same way (1Tim3:11) 2. 1Cor14:34-35 is Paul quoting from the Corinthians letter are refuting it (v36), see 1Cor7:1. 3. In 1Tim2:11-15,

1Cor14:34-35 1Cor7:1 1Tim2:11-15 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I see. So in Paul’s advice concerning younger widows, he advises them to remarry and “manage their households”… (1Tim5:14). This word means “rule” or “despot” or “master” or “absolute ru...

@JosephConkle9 @L_T_Pearson @RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I see. So in Paul’s advice concerning younger widows, he advises them to remarry and “manage their households”… (1Tim5:14). This word me

1Tim5:14 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I don’t know about your kids, but I teach mine to read in context. Paul was quoting from the letter from the Corinthians 1Cor7:1. 1Cor14:36 refutes the quote by saying, “What? Came the word of God out from you [men...

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin I don’t know about your kids, but I teach mine to read in context. Paul was quoting from the letter from the Corinthians 1Cor7:1. 1Cor14:36 refutes the quote by say

1Cor14:36 1Cor7:1 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that

@RupertP46422908 @JustinPetersMin “After 2000 years of study”⎯ you realize that the Jewish leaders had many years of study and they completely missed the Messiah? Paul didn’t have a wife or children.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-22

@brmorris Seems like mutual submission was not the narrative they wanted from th

@brmorris Seems like mutual submission was not the narrative they wanted from the Apostle Paul.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-20

@DeannaR00467515 @AnnaGraceWood Paul says in 1 Tim 2 that the creation order was the reason for either being deceived or not deceived. The reason is clear in a careful reading of Gen 2: God created in front of Adam, so he was aware of the origin of ...

@DeannaR00467515 @AnnaGraceWood Paul says in 1 Tim 2 that the creation order was the reason for either being deceived or not deceived. The reason is clear in a careful reading of Gen 2: God created i

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-20

@Mark_MCRider @MikeWingerii And if Paul in fact was instead quoting from the Cor

@Mark_MCRider @MikeWingerii And if Paul in fact was instead quoting from the Corinthians’ letter to refute this statement then you can see how treating it as Paul’s command is causing problems.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-19

@graceforprize @MikeWingerii @RickWarren Not true. There is an egal view that t

@graceforprize @MikeWingerii @RickWarren Not true. There is an egal view that traces Paul's flow of thought and relates this part back to the purpose of the letter which is for Timothy to remain in E

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-17

@William_E_Wolfe Did you notice that 1 Tim 2:12 is not a command? Also, what yo

@William_E_Wolfe Did you notice that 1 Tim 2:12 is not a command? Also, what you are calling sin is not listed in any sin list. Further, Paul never stopped anyone from preaching the gospel even if t

1 Tim 2:12 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The qualifications in Titus 1 are very similar to 1 Tim 3. Faithfulness to one's spouse (if they have one) is a character quality. Paul doesn't make ethnicity, socioeconomic status or gender a qualificatio...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer The qualifications in Titus 1 are very similar to 1 Tim 3. Faithfulness to one's spouse (if they have one) is a character quality. Paul doesn't make ethnic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-16

@southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood A text without a context is a pretext. And no, it is not clear as can be. 'A woman' is not 'women' (Paul knows grammar), and "A bishop cannot be a woman" would be as clear as it can be. Do you have u...

@southernpresby @5pointsMckinley @AnnaGraceWood A text without a context is a pretext. And no, it is not clear as can be. 'A woman' is not 'women' (Paul knows grammar), and "A bishop cannot be a wom

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer I am not denying Paul uses the words “husband” and “wife” yet you seem to understand that it doesn’t require marriage. You probably also agree that an elder doesn’t have to have children even though that is...

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer I am not denying Paul uses the words “husband” and “wife” yet you seem to understand that it doesn’t require marriage. You probably also agree that an elder

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Adam and Eve are a prototype of this

@PaineInTheNeck @foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Adam and Eve are a prototype of this couple in Ephesus. Why doesn’t Paul name and mark the woman teaching error? Because she ignorant and deceived (like Pa

1 Ti 1:13 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen So only husbands can teach? You know you are sawing off the branch you are standing on…Paul wasn’t married. In 1 Cor 7:1 Paul indicates he is responding to things they wrote him. 1 Cor 14:34-35 are a quo...

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen So only husbands can teach? You know you are sawing off the branch you are standing on…Paul wasn’t married. In 1 Cor 7:1 Paul indicates he is responding t

1 Cor 14:34-35 1 Cor 7:1 commentary
Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen What explicit instruction says "An elder must not be a woman"? In 1 Tim 3 you have "one wife husband" but this is simply monogamous. Paul wasn't married and surely he met his own requirements. Then later...

@ball_dummy @zechariah1680 @thebereanmillen What explicit instruction says "An elder must not be a woman"? In 1 Tim 3 you have "one wife husband" but this is simply monogamous. Paul wasn't married a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@Mark_MCRider @TomBuck What? Women cannot speak in the assembly? What? Their voices are shameful, dirty and filthy? If you don't recognize that the things I commanded (everything else in the chapter) are God's command, then you should be ignored!...

@Mark_MCRider @TomBuck What? Women cannot speak in the assembly? What? Their voices are shameful, dirty and filthy? If you don't recognize that the things I commanded (everything else in the chapt

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@Mark_MCRider @TomBuck Yeah, he summed it up by saying: "What? came the word of

@Mark_MCRider @TomBuck Yeah, he summed it up by saying: "What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?" (KJV) ⎯ notice the "What?" This is a contrastive. Paul is refuting the q

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-15

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 1/ And you shouldn't rely on passages that you don

@DanielFarey @MattSwiftyPerry 1/ And you shouldn't rely on passages that you don't fully understand. In this personal letter from Paul to Timothy, he admonishes him to remain to stop false teachers (

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@Tomasdearc @Moralco61898803 @William_E_Wolfe @RickWarren Yes Jesus made His preferences known and yes He spoke through Paul. Jesus said His church is a kingdom of priests, that men, women and children would prophesy. That the dividing wall between ...

@Tomasdearc @Moralco61898803 @William_E_Wolfe @RickWarren Yes Jesus made His preferences known and yes He spoke through Paul. Jesus said His church is a kingdom of priests, that men, women and childre

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Right. But the point is that the gender of the word

@foxes_on_fire @AmReformer Right. But the point is that the gender of the word doesn’t tell us that there’s a gender restriction. Also, Paul wasn’t married so the one appointing elders doesn’t meet

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris We are not taking 100% proof here, we are looking for answers that link together ALL the evidence and the idea that there's a specific woman in the church at Ephesus which both Paul and Timothy know about fits all ...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris We are not taking 100% proof here, we are looking for answers that link together ALL the evidence and the idea that there's a specific woman in the church at Ephesu

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris But it doesn’t work because Paul uses both t

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris But it doesn’t work because Paul uses both the singular and plural in the same sentence. She will be saved if they. So one generic woman will be saved if all wome

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris What is a generic woman? Are you saying Pau

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @brmorris What is a generic woman? Are you saying Paul could have said women plural and even though he didn’t, a woman means the same thing?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-14

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz But if the apex of creation is last one created, that would mean the woman is the apex. I think we have to stick with what Paul relates. The creation order has something to do with deception. And we all know bot...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz But if the apex of creation is last one created, that would mean the woman is the apex. I think we have to stick with what Paul relates. The creation order has so

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz Unheard of. So Paul has to stop these Judai

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz Unheard of. So Paul has to stop these Judaizers. And if they don’t listen to him then they should be ignored.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz There were too much tongues so some Judaizers came in and tried to fix things by saying “women shouldn’t speak”. To them, having come from a Jewish context it would have been you heard of to have women speak. Paul...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz There were too much tongues so some Judaizers came in and tried to fix things by saying “women shouldn’t speak”. To them, having come from a Jewish context it would

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz If the latter then why follow this up with “do not forbid”? Since Paul says he is responding to their letter you need to argue why this is not a response to their letter. Judaism has this restriction in the Talmu...

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz If the latter then why follow this up with “do not forbid”? Since Paul says he is responding to their letter you need to argue why this is not a response to their

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2023-06-13

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz How do you explain the contrastives in v36?

@ymmotrojam @brmorris @CherylSchatz How do you explain the contrastives in v36? What is Paul contesting or contrasting? Or are you suggesting he’s speaking to those who don’t like the prohibition in

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