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@j0rdanistyping @MikeWingerii Sorry, how did I misrepresent Mike and yourself on deaconesses? What did I say that was wrong? So your only option for me to be “consistent” is to be silent? I’m asking Mike to retract his call to repent and his divisi...

@j0rdanistyping @MikeWingerii Sorry, how did I misrepresent Mike and yourself on deaconesses? What did I say that was wrong? So your only option for me to be “consistent” is to be silent? I’m asking

@lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes. The tendency is to look at clear scriptures which seem to include women even at the highest levels having authority over men, teaching men, etc., but then a few passages later which seem to contradict or have some de...

@lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes. The tendency is to look at clear scriptures which seem to include women even at the highest levels having authority over men, teaching men, etc., but then a few passa

@lunarCelerity @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are right that something doesn't sit right with how he seems to speak of egalitarians as brothers and sisters but then calls them to repent of spreading the teaching. If they refuse to repent, wouldn't t...

@lunarCelerity @pastherandie @MikeWingerii You are right that something doesn't sit right with how he seems to speak of egalitarians as brothers and sisters but then calls them to repent of spreading

@clay_keller1 @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes, this is a matter of Mike's own conscience on a debatable matter. He is free to conclude that the Bible promotes a complementarian view, but not as a matter of sin if you don't have male-only elders. If...

@clay_keller1 @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes, this is a matter of Mike's own conscience on a debatable matter. He is free to conclude that the Bible promotes a complementarian view, but not as a mat

@JonKismetCalvin @th3muse @MikeWingerii He uses a translation that says "Their wives" instead. I don't think he concludes that v11 is referring to the inclusion of women as deacons, but that this verse speaks about the wives of deacons. His justifica...

@JonKismetCalvin @th3muse @MikeWingerii He uses a translation that says "Their wives" instead. I don't think he concludes that v11 is referring to the inclusion of women as deacons, but that this vers

@benkrake @MikeWingerii Sure, debating and teaching the correct Biblical view of alcohol is important. Notice that forbidding alcohol is not the correct view but one shared by those of weak conscience. Paul speaks about not doing anything to cause a ...

@benkrake @MikeWingerii Sure, debating and teaching the correct Biblical view of alcohol is important. Notice that forbidding alcohol is not the correct view but one shared by those of weak conscience

@peace_got @MikeWingerii I wasn't aware that some Calvary Chapel's are egal. If that's true, I'd like to know which one(s). I appreciate you as a Calvinist are willing to go to a non-Calvinist church. By non-negotiable, do you mean it is a sin for ...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii I wasn't aware that some Calvary Chapel's are egal. If that's true, I'd like to know which one(s). I appreciate you as a Calvinist are willing to go to a non-Calvinist church

@peace_got @MikeWingerii First, treating other believers like they are in unrepentant sin because they support or are female elders/pastors is a serious problem that causes disunity. Second, tolerating others that disagree with you on debatable matt...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii First, treating other believers like they are in unrepentant sin because they support or are female elders/pastors is a serious problem that causes disunity. Second, tolerati

@benkrake @MikeWingerii If it is secondary then that means it is a debatable issue and is not a matter of sin. So we need to treat it that way and truly learn to tolerate those we disagree with on debatable matters. Where is a godly women teaching t...

@benkrake @MikeWingerii If it is secondary then that means it is a debatable issue and is not a matter of sin. So we need to treat it that way and truly learn to tolerate those we disagree with on deb

@pastherandie @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii And Hawk, please show me one place in

@pastherandie @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii And Hawk, please show me one place in scripture where a godly woman teaching truth to men or shepherding people (including males) is ever called a sin.

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Everyone is human and fall prey to tribalist behaviours. I am going to a reformed church and I'm very much not a Calvinist. I previously was attending a Calvary Chapel as an egalitarian and they are very complementarian. So ...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Everyone is human and fall prey to tribalist behaviours. I am going to a reformed church and I'm very much not a Calvinist. I previously was attending a Calvary Chapel as an e

@peace_got @MikeWingerii So egalitarians should tolerate complementarian restric

@peace_got @MikeWingerii So egalitarians should tolerate complementarian restrictions but complementarians should divide from egalitarian churches which practice freedom?

@StevenMKestner @MikeWingerii But I believe this on the basis of scripture and t

@StevenMKestner @MikeWingerii But I believe this on the basis of scripture and that scripture does not exclude or prohibit someone on the basis of their biology but on their soundness in the faith, th

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement as for elders. But Mike thinks its only the male d...

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement

1Ti 3:12 debate

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Absolutely fine and encouraged to try to convince other

@peace_got @MikeWingerii Absolutely fine and encouraged to try to convince others of your view and educate ignorant people. I'm not against that at all. But tolerating others who disagree on secondary

@Gates_of_Derry @MikeWingerii I should have said "if one group cannot live within the restrictions imposed or freedoms practiced by the church they are attending, then they have the option to leave peaceably and find another church that agrees with t...

@Gates_of_Derry @MikeWingerii I should have said "if one group cannot live within the restrictions imposed or freedoms practiced by the church they are attending, then they have the option to leave pe

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and pastors. If you cannot tolerate a secondary diffe...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and

@AslansHowe @Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii I was an egalitarian for many years and my family tolerated being in a complementarian church. Why? Because it's not a matter of sin, but of conviction. If you can't tolerate this, then leave peaceably with t...

@AslansHowe @Torncurtainorg @MikeWingerii I was an egalitarian for many years and my family tolerated being in a complementarian church. Why? Because it's not a matter of sin, but of conviction. If yo

@MrAndreRobles @DeadpointTrav @MikeWingerii He is not Biblically accurate in his

@MrAndreRobles @DeadpointTrav @MikeWingerii He is not Biblically accurate in his assessment of egalitarianism, but you are free to conclude that of course. Here are the relevant clips. https://t.co/R

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are limited to not being elders nor acting like elders (which he says means speaking authoritatively or speaking in a struct

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@MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure that if we sat down and I asked you the questions raised by the text, I would have a faithful exegesis treating everything written as inspired and you would be left scratching your head with no answers and ...

@MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii I'm pretty sure that if we sat down and I asked you the questions raised by the text, I would have a faithful exegesis treating everything written as inspired and you would

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@paulogia0 @BradVWall Leading people away from the truth isn’t noble. Clearly on

@paulogia0 @BradVWall Leading people away from the truth isn’t noble. Clearly one of us is wrong as we cannot both be right.

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@carol66944 Right, the problem isn’t with the women in general. Are you suggesti

@carol66944 Right, the problem isn’t with the women in general. Are you suggesting that if there is in fact a false teacher in Ephesus that Paul hadn’t dealt with that this means Paul or Timothy hasti

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@ronhenzel @kennyinnes You are imposing something on Paul’s intention that I don’t see in his listed purposes which are: 1️⃣ Building Up the Church: Prophecy serves to edify, or build up, the church (1Co 14:4). 2️⃣ Encouragement and Consolation: Pr...

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes You are imposing something on Paul’s intention that I don’t see in his listed purposes which are: 1️⃣ Building Up the Church: Prophecy serves to edify, or build up, the church

1Co 14:4 general

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes My church doesn’t encourage prophecy and tongues because of Asuza but because of 1Co 12-14. The idea that understanding and exhortation is not necessary after the final sentence of Revelation was penned is clearly fallacious. ...

@ronhenzel @kennyinnes My church doesn’t encourage prophecy and tongues because of Asuza but because of 1Co 12-14. The idea that understanding and exhortation is not necessary after the final sentenc

@ronhenzel Paul literally says in the next chapter to earnestly desire to prop

@ronhenzel Paul literally says in the next chapter to *earnestly desire* to prophesy and to *not forbid* speaking in tongues—both are in the imperative. "Therefore, my brothers and sisters, earnestly

1Co 14:39 general

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not all are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teache...

@Unashamed_Chuck That’s right—not *all* are teachers. But we are told to earnestly desire the greater gifts. "Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it. And God has appointed in the chu

@JohnsdeSBaptist @Just_A_Man67 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii What most think is c

@JohnsdeSBaptist @Just_A_Man67 @Crystalisives @MikeWingerii What most think is clear scripture on forbidding women is just your reading your tradition into the text. Scratch an inch below the surface

@UrMomChoseLife @GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii If in fact they ignored clear scriptu

@UrMomChoseLife @GyolaNevada @MikeWingerii If in fact they ignored clear scripture to get there, I understand that sentiment. However, what you say is “clear” is actually just your tradition that you

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@B_Christs_Amb Yes, our inheritance which includes ruling and reigning with Christ on His throne (Rev 3:21), judging the nations and even judging angels (1Co 6:2-3; Rev 2:26-28). There is no gender-role hierarchy of authority of husband over wife. Y...

@B_Christs_Amb Yes, our inheritance which includes ruling and reigning with Christ on His throne (Rev 3:21), judging the nations and even judging angels (1Co 6:2-3; Rev 2:26-28). There is no gender-r

1Co 6:2-3 Rev 2:26-28 Rev 3:21 debate

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if married); teaches one-man-one-woman monogamous relation...

@StevenMKestner The one who aspires the role of an overseer desires a good thing. In addition to being sound in the faith, the person is to be: 1. Above reproach 2. Faithful to their spouse (if marri

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@StevenMKestner Can a son hold the office of an elder?

@Gates_of_Derry @reformedbapty @CherylSchatz Well, Christ is king from before the world began. Yet we will see Him reigning in the millennial kingdom. It can be confusing to say Christ is King in general because He is only the king of those who submi...

@Gates_of_Derry @reformedbapty @CherylSchatz Well, Christ is king from before the world began. Yet we will see Him reigning in the millennial kingdom. It can be confusing to say Christ is King in gene

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Hi Ron

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Hi Ron. I never strung you along. I mentioned that men are silenced today by overbearing pastors. There was nothing to resolv

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Why on earth are pastors and elders so possessive about “their job”? Moses said: “But Moses replied, 'Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the Lord's people were prop...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Why on earth are pastors and elders so possessive about “their job”? Moses said: “But Moses replied, 'Are you jealous for my

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii That has to do with false teaching. My point was that you are stopping women from teaching true doctrine. Then you said some men have to be silenced too. Then I sh...

@ronhenzel @LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii That has to do with false teaching. My point was that you are stopping women from teaching true doctrine. Then yo

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the modified process now has 4 steps? 1️⃣ The person who becomes aware of the sin confronts the person. 2️⃣ 1 or 2 elders join the first lerson. 3️⃣ The team of elders take ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the modified process now has 4 steps? 1️⃣ The person who becomes aware of the sin confronts the person. 2️⃣ 1 or 2 elders j

@LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How did I respond to the leadership? The only person that had any issue was my own pastor from Canada who was afraid that I might have been perceived as usurping th...

@LynnCDell2 @ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How did I respond to the leadership? The only person that had any issue was my own pastor from Canada who was afra

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just find it curious you judged me before knowing sufficient details. That’s not a good look. My pastor never mentioned it again despite me calmly saying I would not have ch...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I just find it curious you judged me before knowing sufficient details. That’s not a good look. My pastor never mentioned it

@BradPatriarch Lexicons are not intended for interpretation. Interpretation requ

@BradPatriarch Lexicons are not intended for interpretation. Interpretation requires taking the context into consideration. Besides, are you saying that a lexicon does not say that in this verse it me

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@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How di

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii How did I directly contradict the pastoral oversight? My own pastor told me his thoughts in private at dinner after the event.

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I only found out why people were refusing the elements after the meeting. No one told me beforehand that I couldn’t speak. No one stopped me. Only in a private meeting afterwar...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii I only found out why people were refusing the elements after the meeting. No one told me beforehand that I couldn’t speak. No

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii The elders must submit to Jesus’ authority. There usually are many mature people in the fellowship who can serve as witnesses, and certain so can an elder or two. The way I’ve...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii The elders must submit to Jesus’ authority. There usually are many mature people in the fellowship who can serve as witnesses,

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, so Jesus words only lasted for a very short time? Although He already had apostles he didn’t mention them or leadership of any kind, so his words were merely a suggestion ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii Tom, so Jesus words only lasted for a very short time? Although He already had apostles he didn’t mention them or leadership o

@BradPatriarch @pastherandie Bradley, the Greek simply says μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα (one wife husband)⎯"woman" is in the genitive form and "man" in the accusative, thus together this translates as wife and husband. The emphasis in the Greek is on "one." ...

@BradPatriarch @pastherandie Bradley, the Greek simply says μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα (one wife husband)⎯"woman" is in the genitive form and "man" in the accusative, thus together this translates as wife an

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeW

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii So no mention of apostles or leadership? Again, what’s missing? Are you saying following what Jesus said is not

@Whitehorse1255 @ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Sounds like a great story about Edwards. However, shouldn’t we just do what scripture says? Communion is both a unifying meal and a gospel proclam...

@Whitehorse1255 @ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Sounds like a great story about Edwards. However, shouldn’t we just do what scripture says? Comm

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature would make great witnesses. The witnesses confirm ever...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature woul

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeW

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The process is clear. This is a clear matter of sin. It is not a trial⎯the witnesses would confirm every matter

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Ron, the text is explicit: 1 person, the 2-3 persons, then the entire church. The 2-3 witnesses serve as people who anyone in the church can confirm. the facts wi...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Ron, the text is explicit: 1 person, the 2-3 persons, then the entire church. The 2-3 witnesses serve as people