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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-08

@JamesEwen0407 Pastoring is a function though we use it for those in full time m

@JamesEwen0407 Pastoring is a function though we use it for those in full time ministry who are acting as overseers. Pastor, elder, bishop/overseer can all be used interchangeably.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-07

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii Ok then, please show me who was explicitly called an elder? I'll help you: Peter and John are the only two and they self identify as elders. So out of 2 who self-identify you claim we don't have a woman mentioned as...

@avyargo @neecygrace @MikeWingerii Ok then, please show me who was explicitly called an elder? I'll help you: Peter and John are the only two and they self identify as elders. So out of 2 who self-ide

1Ti 3:1 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-06

I find this statement from @MikeWingerii revealing. When someone says a woman cannot be a man I think of immutable differences not eldership. How do comps see the command for both to rule and women made in God’s image as limiting on women from autho...

I find this statement from @MikeWingerii revealing. When someone says a woman cannot be a man I think of immutable differences not eldership. How do comps see the command for both to rule and women m

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-05

@Wbtesq @MikeWingerii No, I’m not joking. And no, not all Christian men think that women should not be allowed to teach or pastor if they have the gifting and character qualifications. And definitely not all Christians think it is a sin for a female ...

@Wbtesq @MikeWingerii No, I’m not joking. And no, not all Christian men think that women should not be allowed to teach or pastor if they have the gifting and character qualifications. And definitely

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-04

@avyargo @bonhoefferchild @MikeWingerii The problem is when you forbid women as

@avyargo @bonhoefferchild @MikeWingerii The problem is when you forbid women as the Bible doesn’t do. Being an elder / overseer / pastor is not specific to make and female so why should scripture give

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@SteelSmack @MikeWingerii That’s true. Though I don’t think Mike believes that t

@SteelSmack @MikeWingerii That’s true. Though I don’t think Mike believes that the restriction on women from being elders or having authority which may be confused with that of elders is Paul’s opinio

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-02

@mikeproverbs10 @severegrace @smashbaals Paul wasn’t commanding anyone to be pas

@mikeproverbs10 @severegrace @smashbaals Paul wasn’t commanding anyone to be pastors or elders. What are you talking about?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-07-01

@severegrace @smashbaals That would normally be called a pastor, elder or overse

@severegrace @smashbaals That would normally be called a pastor, elder or overseer. We don’t carry forward the OT priesthood with the job of performing bloodless sacrifices because the OT system is su

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-24

@UrMomChoseLife @smashbaals You write “Paul clearly states women aren’t to teach the Bible or be elders” First, Paul wrote “a woman” and in the context of the letter, it had to do with teaching heresy, not teaching the truth of the Bible. And Paul n...

@UrMomChoseLife @smashbaals You write “Paul clearly states women aren’t to teach the Bible or be elders” First, Paul wrote “a woman” and in the context of the letter, it had to do with teaching heres

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-21

Brian thinks the elders should be called if his wife “rebels against her husband

Brian thinks the elders should be called if his wife “rebels against her husband.” So is this like if she doesn’t make the dinner he demands or doesn’t clean the house when he commands? So then a bunc

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-20

@MarkGrote In 1Ti 2:12, the young and single Timothy is going to need to intervene in between a husband and wife (the wife is teaching heresy and the husband, likely an elder, is silent). To assist Timothy, he gives him his apostolic authority to hel...

@MarkGrote In 1Ti 2:12, the young and single Timothy is going to need to intervene in between a husband and wife (the wife is teaching heresy and the husband, likely an elder, is silent). To assist Ti

1Ti 2:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-19

@smashli1228 @BenZeisloft Technically, he doesn't believe women are allowed to b

@smashli1228 @BenZeisloft Technically, he doesn't believe women are allowed to be pastors or elders. I'm not sure that makes him a raging misogynist.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@RushiXmakima @SacrdCowTipping @MikeWingerii Yes, the church was to minister to

@RushiXmakima @SacrdCowTipping @MikeWingerii Yes, the church was to minister to each other! Elders have the gift of teaching and responsibility to correct but they are not the only ones to teach or pr

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-18

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY teach younger wives? The point about them working at...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY te

Tit 2:3-5 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-16

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 In the Bible, no one specifically—not even a male⎯is identified as a pastor. Only two are explicitly called an elder and they are self identified—Peter and John. What does it matter what the church did after the NT? Are ...

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 In the Bible, no one specifically—not even a male⎯is identified as a pastor. Only two are explicitly called an elder and they are self identified—Peter and John. What doe

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Further, there are egalitarian churches who are absolutely obeying God’s command

Further, there are egalitarian churches who are absolutely obeying God’s commands. They have studied and see how it’s not a sin for a woman to be in leadership. They see how no one is explicitly state

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

Wolfe claims that churches are “proudly disobeying God’s clear commands for who

Wolfe claims that churches are “proudly disobeying God’s clear commands for who can be a pastor,” but last I checked, ‘pastor’ isn’t even mentioned in 1Ti 2:12 and 1Ti 3:1-13 has to do with elders who

1Ti 2:11-15 1Ti 2:12 1Ti 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-14

@katz_2022 @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning A young single man is going to interject between a husband and his wife as the husband who is not deceived and perhaps an elder is doing nothing. This is a tricky situation for Timothy and Paul ...

@katz_2022 @ymmotrojam @Rattle_Resists @michael_ronning A young single man is going to interject between a husband and his wife as the husband who is not deceived and perhaps an elder is doing nothing

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-13

@LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn Paul was an apostle and absolutely functioning as an elder, overseer, and shepherd. He stayed for long periods to establish a church and then provided council and guidance by letter and future visitation. Husband and wife ...

@LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn Paul was an apostle and absolutely functioning as an elder, overseer, and shepherd. He stayed for long periods to establish a church and then provided council and guidance b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-13

@Rick07200430 @avyargo @LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn Overseer (bishop), elder and p

@Rick07200430 @avyargo @LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn Overseer (bishop), elder and pastor are used interchangeably in the NT though pastor or shepherd is used as a function and not as an office.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-13

@Twinjeremiah @BenZeisloft The Greek is μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα or literally "one wife husband." This phrase is stated twice, once in v2 for elders and once in v12 for deacons. The NIV translates as "faithful to his wife" but I'm asserting that this is a...

@Twinjeremiah @BenZeisloft The Greek is μιᾶς γυναικὸς ἄνδρα or literally "one wife husband." This phrase is stated twice, once in v2 for elders and once in v12 for deacons. The NIV translates as "fait

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-13

@rofbethany @kodysamnanveth @BrandonGra53760 Oh good grief. You show so little p

@rofbethany @kodysamnanveth @BrandonGra53760 Oh good grief. You show so little patience. I hope you are not an elder! https://t.co/lAzO4vKuaQ

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@smashbaals The rest of us conservatives who don't think that the Bible forbids

@smashbaals The rest of us conservatives who don't think that the Bible forbids godly women from serving as pastors or elders are still here.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@avyargo @LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn “Likewise their wives” was a translation choice. Note “their” and “must be” are not in the Greek. The NASB says, “Likewise, women…” If ‘their wives’ is correct, why are the wives of deacons highlighted but not of ...

@avyargo @LoblollyPine73 @Eric_Conn “Likewise their wives” was a translation choice. Note “their” and “must be” are not in the Greek. The NASB says, “Likewise, women…” If ‘their wives’ is correct, wh

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@landjax Let's say I was attending your church as a member. In this example, you

@landjax Let's say I was attending your church as a member. In this example, you are my elder. In this context, what authority do you have over me? Give me some examples. Help me to understand what yo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@landjax Please instruct me. What authority do you uniquely have as my elder ove

@landjax Please instruct me. What authority do you uniquely have as my elder over me?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@landjax Let's rephrase. What authority does the elder have over me? Let's say I'm following scripture. Can they tell me to not follow scripture and I have to obey? So then, what authority do they have? We submit to them as they are serving to help t...

@landjax Let's rephrase. What authority does the elder have over me? Let's say I'm following scripture. Can they tell me to not follow scripture and I have to obey? So then, what authority do they hav

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@Grump_Old_Man @DBryanRhodes @ronhenzel @Gates_of_Derry @CalebDixonSmith Complementarians exist in quite a range. My last church only prevented women from the lead pastor role. Some prevent women from any leadership role. Others prevent them from ser...

@Grump_Old_Man @DBryanRhodes @ronhenzel @Gates_of_Derry @CalebDixonSmith Complementarians exist in quite a range. My last church only prevented women from the lead pastor role. Some prevent women from

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@landjax @Charb_izard Elders have the authority to build up not to tear down. Th

@landjax @Charb_izard Elders have the authority to build up not to tear down. They have a responsibility and a service to perform which is not to take all the important tasks for themselves. Matt 18:

Matt 18:15-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@sunbrightskills @JodyinKentucky @eorre_ecc Why is this the responsibility of th

@sunbrightskills @JodyinKentucky @eorre_ecc Why is this the responsibility of the elders? Elders are not supposed to control things, but to oversee things. They should only be concerned that what is b

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@JodyinKentucky @sunbrightskills @eorre_ecc Curriculum is simply to teach existi

@JodyinKentucky @sunbrightskills @eorre_ecc Curriculum is simply to teach existing doctrine not create new doctrine. No one should be establishing new doctrine including elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-12

@sunbrightskills @eorre_ecc Actually, there should be no new doctrines established since what has been laid by Jesus and the apostles is sufficient. If you meant to uphold church doctrine, it would depend on which doctrine as only the fundamentals of...

@sunbrightskills @eorre_ecc Actually, there should be no new doctrines established since what has been laid by Jesus and the apostles is sufficient. If you meant to uphold church doctrine, it would de

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-11

@ronhenzel @Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @smashbaals That passage also says el

@ronhenzel @Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @smashbaals That passage also says elders are to receive the same benefit of Matt 18 in that an accusation should not be entertained unless brought by 2 or 3

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-10

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals There’s no example of pastors because no one is specifically identified as pastor. There’s no example of an elder because the only two explicitly stated are John and Peter and they are self proc...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals There’s no example of pastors because no one is specifically identified as pastor. There’s no example of an elder because the only two explicitl

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-10

@riemersonck Now you are getting my point. There were Romans and other Gentiles that feared God yet Jesus didn’t pick them. Maybe he had a reason for picking those 12 Jewish males and that has nothing to do with whether Gentiles or women are allowed...

@riemersonck Now you are getting my point. There were Romans and other Gentiles that feared God yet Jesus didn’t pick them. Maybe he had a reason for picking those 12 Jewish males and that has nothin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-10

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Evangelical Free, PAOC, C

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Evangelical Free, PAOC, Calvary Chapel, non-denim, ACOP, Baptist, RCA are all denominations I have been involved in. I was appointed an elder in

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-09

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Again, you presume things: 1. That equal opportunity must mean we should see equal representation of M/F 2. That the NT explicitly names all pastors/elders 3. That God designates leadership to b...

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Again, you presume things: 1. That equal opportunity must mean we should see equal representation of M/F 2. That the NT explicitly names all pas

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-08

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Where is a slave’s preach

@Grump_Old_Man @Robert_S_Morley @ronhenzel @smashbaals Where is a slave’s preaching highlighted? Where is a slave called an elder or pastor? The same questions you ask of women can be asked of slaves

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-07

@Grump_Old_Man Why don’t you tell me how 1Ti 3:11 only speaks about the wives of

@Grump_Old_Man Why don’t you tell me how 1Ti 3:11 only speaks about the wives of deacons and not the wives of elders given that “one wife husband” is stated for both?

1Ti 3:11 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-07

@Grump_Old_Man So the wives of elders have no restrictions? They can be filthy h

@Grump_Old_Man So the wives of elders have no restrictions? They can be filthy heathens?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-07

@Grump_Old_Man If God’s intent was to accept Gentiles fully and have them being pastors and leaders and preachers, why wouldn’t he have captured one Gentile sermon? See how this works Grumpy? Name anyone who is called pastor? How about anyone spec...

@Grump_Old_Man If God’s intent was to accept Gentiles fully and have them being pastors and leaders and preachers, why wouldn’t he have captured one Gentile sermon? See how this works Grumpy? Name a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-07

Except fidelity to the Biblical instruction on a matter requires proper exegesis

Except fidelity to the Biblical instruction on a matter requires proper exegesis. It doesn’t matter how red your eyes glow, the Bible does not forbid godly women from serving as pastors, elders or te

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-06

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii I’m not twisting scripture. Please list fo

@BahBahBased @zie95776 @MikeWingerii I’m not twisting scripture. Please list for me those men who are specifically called elders.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@LogicSaysBurn @Dayagent47 What is the OT requirement for elders that you are re

@LogicSaysBurn @Dayagent47 What is the OT requirement for elders that you are referring to?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-05

@StephenStaedtl1 @baste_goblin @DelaKram75 And not even 1% of all believers are

@StephenStaedtl1 @baste_goblin @DelaKram75 And not even 1% of all believers are elders and pastors, so what’s the problem here? Only those with the requisite character, maturity, demonstrated skill, s

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-04

@CNistEnjoyer Why people think the Bible forbids women from serving as elders, o

@CNistEnjoyer Why people think the Bible forbids women from serving as elders, overseers, deacons, apostles, teachers (including of males)—and why stopping all women from these things solves any probl

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-04

@Tailfeathers_WA I was surprised Mike said that women can be deacons given that

@Tailfeathers_WA I was surprised Mike said that women can be deacons given that the term “one wife husband” is stated for deacons as well as elders. https://t.co/ApHovjrnZw

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-30

1Ti 2:11-15 addresses a specific situation of a deceived wife teaching false doctrine and her undeceived husband (likely an elder) being silent and doing nothing. What about the qualification for overseers? 1Ti 3:1-13 does not explicitly forbid wom...

1Ti 2:11-15 addresses a specific situation of a deceived wife teaching false doctrine and her undeceived husband (likely an elder) being silent and doing nothing. What about the qualification for ove

1Ti 2:11-15 1Ti 3:1-13 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-29

@avyargo @_nomadic_soul It’s pretty clear that a godly woman is not restricted f

@avyargo @_nomadic_soul It’s pretty clear that a godly woman is not restricted from serving in any capacity that God gifted her in, including overseer or elder or deacon.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-27

But Mohler fails to recognize there are many who believe they are following scri

But Mohler fails to recognize there are many who believe they are following scripture more accurately by not forbidding women from serving as elders and pastors. /2 https://t.co/a36YWtiaIj

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