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@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. K

@corefaithbishop @johnmarkallen @MikeWingerii You are a great complementarian. Keep it up! The Christ/church picture demonstrates mutual submission, not one person with the trump card over the other.

@ymmotrojam @russ_hjelm @HeGTiSunesis So called "exceptions" actually shows us t

@ymmotrojam @russ_hjelm @HeGTiSunesis So called "exceptions" actually shows us that men having long hair isn't unnatural. The thing is that society teaches us there's a difference, but nature...? Nat

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the home. If she is fortunate enough to have kids, sh...

@DustyMayT @Torncurtainorg @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Hard complementarians believe that a woman's place is the home only and that only the man is to work a job outside the

@Zoey_Granitz 😂. PS> Those same women, when they leave the church building a

@Zoey_Granitz 😂. PS> Those same women, when they leave the church building and go home, take off their hats. 🤯

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians time to catch up and many believe that as long as...

@Torncurtainorg @DustyMayT @JollyStine @Crystalisives @Gabe_Torrez7 @MikeWingerii Now you are saying senior leadership. That’s a nice change. My previous church did this too. It takes complementarians

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1,5 (elect lady) and vs 13 (chosen sister)? Also, w...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1

@FraudDMartin Not everyone thinks this way. I’m not even sure Smash does…he seem

@FraudDMartin Not everyone thinks this way. I’m not even sure Smash does…he seems to generate click bait posts. His concern is that woman should not be pastors as he thinks the Bible forbids them. Bu

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English becau

@rr74cm @JollyStine @MikeWingerii “A symbol of” is inserted in the English because the translators are just as puzzled as you are. They shouldn’t have done that as it’s misleading. She should have au

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such pra...

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Mike, you forgot to exegete the passage carefully. Paul is not advocating for head coverings, but says “we have no such practice.” Repeat: NO SUCH PRACTICE. "But if anyone

1Co 11:16 debate

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional

@TarienCole @MikeWingerii @JollyStine Yes, it stands on its head the traditional interpretation of Paul advocating for head coverings. Let me ask you this: what does nature tell you is the difference

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritativ

@JoeAdrian256 Right, Mike says that women are not allowed to “teach authoritatively” (whatever that means), nor occupy the role of an elder, nor do anything to make it appear that they are acting in t

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@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral roles. It is referring to “a woman” which v14 spec...

@JoeAdrian256 I stand by the scriptures too. No need to twist anything. I love Paul’s writings…but it’s important to know what he actually means. 1Ti 2 doesn’t forbid women from teaching or pastoral

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine No, it means “he has NO such practice” (ie. head coverin

@ymmotrojam @JollyStine No, it means “he has NO such practice” (ie. head coverings) in any of the churches.

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@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Interesting. Paul said that he had NO such practice (i

@MikeWingerii @JollyStine Interesting. Paul said that he had NO such practice (ie. head coverings)… "But if anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no such practice, nor have the churches of Go

1Co 11:16 debate

@Here4Now0829 @smashbaals @bornagainbrett I see. It may be that there are no wom

@Here4Now0829 @smashbaals @bornagainbrett I see. It may be that there are no women prophets or gifted to teach in your entire church, but do they forbid women from teaching, reading scripture, prophes

@aMalacandra That’s certainly how it can feel though most seem to say that women

@aMalacandra That’s certainly how it can feel though most seem to say that women should learn. They are just stuck on the whole pastor thing.

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over” type of authority? Isn’t there a common term for...

@OrthodoxBarbie This interpretation seems contingent on “domineering and pressuring” being the translation for authentein. So Paul had to use a super rare word to convey this kind of “lording it over

1Ti 3:2 debate

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Totally fine if you disagree. 1Ti is about dealing with false teaching, what you call “behav[ing] badly.” If Paul is referring to all women, the singular needs to be explained away including the “she will be saved” in...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Totally fine if you disagree. 1Ti is about dealing with false teaching, what you call “behav[ing] badly.” If Paul is referring to all women, the singular needs to be e

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI What a strange way of thinking about the role of teach

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI What a strange way of thinking about the role of teaching...

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Where is “exerting authority over” someone stated in a

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI Where is “exerting authority over” someone stated in a positive way for anyone? Does you pastor exert authority over you on Sunday morning? What, by simply reading the Bible

@MatneyWoodard Attacking women serving as pastors and calling them in sin is doi

@MatneyWoodard Attacking women serving as pastors and calling them in sin is doing exactly as you describe.

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor.

@SwordMasterPub It shows that an apostle can also be an elder/overseer/pastor. Only Peter and John self identify as elders. Are there only two elders in the New Testament?

@SwordMasterPub You have to refer to the Greek not the English. If Peter could

@SwordMasterPub You have to refer to the Greek not the English. If Peter could be an elder (1 Pe 5:1) then Paul certainly can. Paul functioned as an overseer of multiple churches.

1 Pe 5:1 general

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, especially in context to 1Ti 1:2. Yes, Eve does “dou...

@ronhenzel @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @ymmotrojam @MikeWingerii If you see the anaphoric use of the article in v14 point to gyne in vs11-12 then this tells us Paul means a specific woman, es

1Ti 1:2 commentary

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning that Paul had, we don't see that this passage for...

@Whitehorse1255 @CherylSchatz @MikeWingerii @soothkeep @JoelFKorytko @The_Idol_Killer @ProvisionistP @HwsEleutheroi @Soteriology101 @1984_nate My contention is that when we get to the original meaning

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Yes, I know you don't want to debate. I must have really upset you somehow that you had to correct me. I appreciate you jumping back in⎯even for a moment or two. Where does the text say that "Paul...appointed male elders...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub Yes, I know you don't want to debate. I must have really upset you somehow that you had to correct me. I appreciate you jumping back in⎯even for a moment or two. Where do

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel The point that Gal 3:28 was “still a long ways off” is not because Paul didn’t already believe this. Paul’s entire ministry was focused on the Gentiles so that was clearly known by Paul. Why do you think he didn’t know...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel The point that Gal 3:28 was “still a long ways off” is not because Paul didn’t already believe this. Paul’s entire ministry was focused on the Gentiles so that was clea

Gal 3:28 question

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Wow, you are the first that I have seen who says

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Wow, you are the first that I have seen who says Paul is disqualified as an overseer despite the fact he is clearly doing the work of one.

@JeffreyPHo67012 @ronhenzel My interpretation that Paul had a specific wife and

@JeffreyPHo67012 @ronhenzel My interpretation that Paul had a specific wife and husband in mind is not a very common interpretation. If you find others who agree with this, please let me know! This i

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@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Peter was (1Pe 5:1). What reason would you say P

@SwordMasterPub @StevenMKestner Peter was (1Pe 5:1). What reason would you say Paul was not acting as an overseer?

1Pe 5:1 question

@peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii That’s what we are debating. Some think the reason is because women are more emotional or more easily deceived. You agree tha...

@peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @pastherandie @Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @MargMowczko @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii That’s what we are debating. Some think the reason is because women are mor

@peace_got @nsraban Deborah was no less than Samuel. She was clearly the highest

@peace_got @nsraban Deborah was no less than Samuel. She was clearly the highest authority in the land. Her authority applied in all areas as she was God’s representative. How in the world does Debor

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Well, I haven’t found it everywhere… just in this passage. Paul charged Timothy to stop “certain people” and he identified in chapter 1 that some are ignorant and some are not, and that the ignorant should receive mer...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel Well, I haven’t found it everywhere… just in this passage. Paul charged Timothy to stop “certain people” and he identified in chapter 1 that some are ignorant and some

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel However, this is not “head speech”, it is instruction-to-Timothy speech which is the one who is commissioned to stop the false teaching and the false teachers at Ephesus. Would you at least grant that I have a grammat...

@carol66944 @EkIesou @ronhenzel However, this is not “head speech”, it is instruction-to-Timothy speech which is the one who is commissioned to stop the false teaching and the false teachers at Ephesu

@EkIesou @ronhenzel James appears to be having grammar issues right now… At any rate, his teaching on the anaphoric use of the article is solid and it most certainly could be applied to this case. He chooses not to for whatever reason. Paul’s shift...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel James appears to be having grammar issues right now… At any rate, his teaching on the anaphoric use of the article is solid and it most certainly could be applied to this case. He

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI How do you know that? Peter said he was an elder (1Pe

@SwordMasterPub @Trish_NI How do you know that? Peter said he was an elder (1Pe 5:1). Paul oversaw multiple churches, writing letters, making sure that they were healthy, etc. He remained in Ephesus f

1Pe 5:1 question

@SwordMasterPub I used to be complementarian so no, so no, I’m not reading my co

@SwordMasterPub I used to be complementarian so no, so no, I’m not reading my conclusion into the text. “Must be” is not in the imperative. Look again. Was Paul a husband?

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved” in v15. On the contrary, your explanation doesn’t...

@EkIesou @ronhenzel I simply noted that Paul uses the article in v14 anaphorically to clarify that “a woman” in vs11-12 is a specific woman. He also uses the article as the subject of “will be saved”

marks 1:20 mercy 1:16 debate

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii But Paul may be sparing putting her name for all time in his letter which he knows will form scripture. Paul speaks about tho...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii But Paul may be sparing putting her name for all time in his letter which h

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Paul use such a rare word for this when commonly und...

@Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @peace_got @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii This assumes that authentein is the normal word for authority. Why would Pa

1T 2:2 debate

@SwordMasterPub 1. Yes, shepherding is a function of elders. 2. The male form is

@SwordMasterPub 1. Yes, shepherding is a function of elders. 2. The male form is often used when both male and female are in view. This is not a forbidding of women or the unmarried. 3. Your logic fai

@peace_got Saul was called a pastor? Matthew? Arguably Jesus told Peter to shepherd so you did find the only instance of a specific NT person given this task. Since the role of a pastor is what Smash seems to be concerned about, how is that proof th...

@peace_got Saul was called a pastor? Matthew? Arguably Jesus told Peter to shepherd so you did find the only instance of a specific NT person given this task. Since the role of a pastor is what Smash

@EkIesou @ronhenzel The definite article is in v14 showing that the previous use

@EkIesou @ronhenzel The definite article is in v14 showing that the previous use of the anarthrous is meant to be specific and not general. Paul left Timothy in Ephesus to instruct “specific people”

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is speaking about a specific woman because of the articl...

@ronhenzel Your translation of authentein as “having authority” begs the question why Paul used an extremely rare word to convey this idea. This needs an explanation. You also missed that Paul is spe

This is silly. Show me where a specific male is called a pastor in the New Testa

This is silly. Show me where a specific male is called a pastor in the New Testament. https://t.co/o5EnNkreIx

@MikeWingerii What is the difference in rate of divorce between Christians with

@MikeWingerii What is the difference in rate of divorce between Christians with a complementarian understanding and those with an Egalitarian one?

@Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @peace_got @BeUrKey @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @

@Robert_S_Morley @JollyStine @peace_got @BeUrKey @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @pastherandie @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Your first point is exactly right! Why do you think Paul is referr

@rofbethany @aaronogre @MikeWingerii Dishonest? The Bible lists Barak amongst th

@rofbethany @aaronogre @MikeWingerii Dishonest? The Bible lists Barak amongst those with great faith and never criticizes him. Why are complementarians criticizing him? Do they have an agenda?

@johnmarkallen @pastherandie @peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Apollos came from Alexandria. He was not part of the group of 12 in Ephesus. There is clearly a difference bet...

@johnmarkallen @pastherandie @peace_got @Robert_S_Morley @MargMowczko @AlistairRobert7 @JollyStine @CharmyRosewolf @JoanBandy @MikeWingerii Apollos came from Alexandria. He was not part of the group o

RT @joyklaprade: If you were once “complementarian” but no longer identify with

RT @joyklaprade: If you were once “complementarian” but no longer identify with that perspective, what prompted you to reevaluate your beli…