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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-11

@NateSchlomann The “doctrine” of male only elders and pastors should never have

@NateSchlomann The “doctrine” of male only elders and pastors should never have been added to a statement of faith. "But if you bite and devour one another, watch out that you are not consumed by one

Ga 5:15 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@MCJazzer @revjeffvox @Knocksious @AdajosFit @RevChrisDavis Pastor is used to refer to the shepherding function of an elder. In scripture we don’t see an office of “pastor” though Jesus is called the chief shepherd. Clearly implied is that elders are...

@MCJazzer @revjeffvox @Knocksious @AdajosFit @RevChrisDavis Pastor is used to refer to the shepherding function of an elder. In scripture we don’t see an office of “pastor” though Jesus is called the

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@revjeffvox @MCJazzer @Knocksious @AdajosFit @RevChrisDavis Scripture does not s

@revjeffvox @MCJazzer @Knocksious @AdajosFit @RevChrisDavis Scripture does not say that women are not to be called elder or pastor or hold this office. And it certainly doesn’t make it a sin for them

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@JimmyParker87 @RevChrisDavis I appreciate you asking this question. The emphasis in scripture is on character, gifting, desire and soundness in the faith. It is not on whether one is male or female and it certainly says nothing like it is a sin for ...

@JimmyParker87 @RevChrisDavis I appreciate you asking this question. The emphasis in scripture is on character, gifting, desire and soundness in the faith. It is not on whether one is male or female a

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@revjeffvox @DDunbear @RevChrisDavis A godly woman preaching truth and serving as an elder or pastor is never listed as a sin in scripture. To prefer a man because you feel it is right is one thing; to disfellowship someone because they don’t agree ...

@revjeffvox @DDunbear @RevChrisDavis A godly woman preaching truth and serving as an elder or pastor is never listed as a sin in scripture. To prefer a man because you feel it is right is one thing;

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@pbcmike98 The equality of the persons of God, the existence of Christ before the incarnation, that they all share the same attributes and that you have to believe that Jesus is God and honor Him as you honor the Father is very clear in scripture. T...

@pbcmike98 The equality of the persons of God, the existence of Christ before the incarnation, that they all share the same attributes and that you have to believe that Jesus is God and honor Him as y

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-09

@StevenMKestner Do you have any elders who are not “husbands” and who have less

@StevenMKestner Do you have any elders who are not “husbands” and who have less than 2 children? https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-06

@Here4Now0829 First point to note is that no one is specifically called a pastor. Pastoring is a function not a title. We have made it a title to differentiate volunteers (elders) from paid positions (pastors). No one is also specifically called eld...

@Here4Now0829 First point to note is that no one is specifically called a pastor. Pastoring is a function not a title. We have made it a title to differentiate volunteers (elders) from paid positions

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-05-03

@MackDonahue @MikeWingerii He could start be rescinding his call for egalitarian

@MackDonahue @MikeWingerii He could start be rescinding his call for egalitarians to repent of spreading the teaching and supporting female elders and pastors.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-30

RT @danae_hudlow: Even as a complementarian, I don't like the argument that "wom

RT @danae_hudlow: Even as a complementarian, I don't like the argument that "women aren't allowed to be elders because their empathy/gullib…

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-29

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Your posts should be chained as I don’t know what this one is the continuation of. 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 in no way restrict elders to be male. You likely get there by reading the English not realizing that the...

@PastorRobMonroe @KaeleyT @megbasham Your posts should be chained as I don’t know what this one is the continuation of. 1Ti 3:1-13 and Tit 1:5-9 in no way restrict elders to be male. You likely get t

Tit 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1-13 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-26

@GetoD6812 @pastherandie 1Ti 2:12 is not referring to pastors. It is dealing with a specific wife who is outside of orthodoxy and teaching false doctrine and her husband (likely an elder) who is not deceived is silent and saying nothing. This mimics ...

@GetoD6812 @pastherandie 1Ti 2:12 is not referring to pastors. It is dealing with a specific wife who is outside of orthodoxy and teaching false doctrine and her husband (likely an elder) who is not d

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-24

@ronhenzel @AleahPursley You may not feel comfortable listening to truth from a

@ronhenzel @AleahPursley You may not feel comfortable listening to truth from a female elder or pastor, yet they are not sinning any more than a black pastor would be, or a slave who is a pastor would

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-22

@ronhenzel A creative way of getting around the text. Why is this not an option for married women? Should half the church (if all single women) all line up one by one to speak with an elder after? How inefficient is that? What if the question she ask...

@ronhenzel A creative way of getting around the text. Why is this not an option for married women? Should half the church (if all single women) all line up one by one to speak with an elder after? How

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-22

@ronhenzel Is Paul’s reference to the Berean believers and how they tested his words spoken only to the elders? Are only the elders to examine and test? If a non elder finds an inconsistency, should they be silenced simply because they are not servin...

@ronhenzel Is Paul’s reference to the Berean believers and how they tested his words spoken only to the elders? Are only the elders to examine and test? If a non elder finds an inconsistency, should t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-22

@ymmotrojam The 144,000 are also Jewish male virgins: “They sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. These are those w...

@ymmotrojam The 144,000 are also Jewish male virgins: “They sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who h

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-17

@FreeAme19691836 Hi Russell, I am using X to address specific issues, and at this time, the forbidding of women as elders and pastors is on the forefront for me. Your assumption that I care little for the salvation of others is misjudged. I ask the...

@FreeAme19691836 Hi Russell, I am using X to address specific issues, and at this time, the forbidding of women as elders and pastors is on the forefront for me. Your assumption that I care little fo

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-12

@CaidenHooks @carol66944 @MikeWingerii This idea is a purely a work of the ficti

@CaidenHooks @carol66944 @MikeWingerii This idea is a purely a work of the fiction of your mind and tradition. It is no more true than the idea that a pastor cannot be a Gentile or a black man or a sl

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@CurtisKack @MikeWingerii @th3muse Interesting read of Mike’ comment. I think you may be right as he doesn’t want to respond to criticism of his position on female elders despite others like Terran Williams and Andrew Bartlett taking the time to revi...

@CurtisKack @MikeWingerii @th3muse Interesting read of Mike’ comment. I think you may be right as he doesn’t want to respond to criticism of his position on female elders despite others like Terran Wi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@th3muse @KylePierce96 Apologies for any misunderstanding. Mike is a complementarian who believes women cannot occupy the role of elder/pastor or act or speak in a manner which could be interpreted as her being an elder or pastor. I am egalitarian a...

@th3muse @KylePierce96 Apologies for any misunderstanding. Mike is a complementarian who believes women cannot occupy the role of elder/pastor or act or speak in a manner which could be interpreted as

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-11

@clay_keller1 @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes, this is a matter of Mike's own conscience on a debatable matter. He is free to conclude that the Bible promotes a complementarian view, but not as a matter of sin if you don't have male-only elders. If...

@clay_keller1 @lunarCelerity @MikeWingerii Yes, this is a matter of Mike's own conscience on a debatable matter. He is free to conclude that the Bible promotes a complementarian view, but not as a mat

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-10

@peace_got @MikeWingerii I wasn't aware that some Calvary Chapel's are egal. If that's true, I'd like to know which one(s). I appreciate you as a Calvinist are willing to go to a non-Calvinist church. By non-negotiable, do you mean it is a sin for ...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii I wasn't aware that some Calvary Chapel's are egal. If that's true, I'd like to know which one(s). I appreciate you as a Calvinist are willing to go to a non-Calvinist church

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-10

@peace_got @MikeWingerii First, treating other believers like they are in unrepentant sin because they support or are female elders/pastors is a serious problem that causes disunity. Second, tolerating others that disagree with you on debatable matt...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii First, treating other believers like they are in unrepentant sin because they support or are female elders/pastors is a serious problem that causes disunity. Second, tolerati

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-10

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement as for elders. But Mike thinks its only the male d...

@th3muse I wouldn't go as far as suggesting that he is creating his own religion. I was surprised how he agreed women could be deacons given that 1Ti 3:12 has the same "one wife husband" requirement

1Ti 3:12 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-10

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and pastors. If you cannot tolerate a secondary diffe...

@peace_got @MikeWingerii But Mike said he saw this as secondary. The problem is that he treats it as something more, like it's a sin issue to propagate egalitarian views and support female elders and

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-04-10

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are

@Dan_NY_Giants @MikeJGreiner @MikeWingerii Right, Mike's view is that women are limited to not being elders nor acting like elders (which he says means speaking authoritatively or speaking in a struct

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-31

@StevenMKestner Can a son hold the office of an elder?

@StevenMKestner Can a son hold the office of an elder?

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Why on earth are pastors and elders so possessive about “their job”? Moses said: “But Moses replied, 'Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the Lord's people were prop...

@ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @ronhenzel @peace_got @MikeWingerii Why on earth are pastors and elders so possessive about “their job”? Moses said: “But Moses replied, 'Are you jealous for my

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the modified process now has 4 steps? 1️⃣ The person who becomes aware of the sin confronts the person. 2️⃣ 1 or 2 elders join the first lerson. 3️⃣ The team of elders take ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii So the modified process now has 4 steps? 1️⃣ The person who becomes aware of the sin confronts the person. 2️⃣ 1 or 2 elders j

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii The elders must submit to Jesus’ authority. There usually are many mature people in the fellowship who can serve as witnesses, and certain so can an elder or two. The way I’ve...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @peace_got @MikeWingerii The elders must submit to Jesus’ authority. There usually are many mature people in the fellowship who can serve as witnesses,

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature would make great witnesses. The witnesses confirm ever...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Jesus is the one who set the process and there is no mention of elders, though elders being the most mature woul

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii How do you know Corinth didn't have elders? It was started by Paul, and Paul and Barnabas appointed elders in each church on their first missionary journey (Ac 14...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii How do you know Corinth didn't have elders? It was started by Paul, and Paul and Barnabas appointed elders in ea

Ac 14:23 Ti 1:5 question
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-30

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The process is quite clear, Ron. It doesn't refer to elders though it would be natural for them to be involved. And it isn't controlled by elders, nor the details...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The process is quite clear, Ron. It doesn't refer to elders though it would be natural for them to be involved.

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii But contrary to the example you gave, the community is not responsible for dealing with the kidnapper; the police are. Jesus does not mention the elders (unless ...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii But contrary to the example you gave, the community is not responsible for dealing with the kidnapper; the polic

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The idea that it is the elders who mete out disciplinary action for unrepentant believers bypasses the instruction of Jesus in Matt 18 which says it is the 2 or 3...

@ronhenzel @ymmotrojam @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii The idea that it is the elders who mete out disciplinary action for unrepentant believers bypasses the instructi

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Where does scripture say that elders are to rule? Oversight, guidance, serving the body by teaching and preaching, gently correcting and guiding are not ruling. R...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii Where does scripture say that elders are to rule? Oversight, guidance, serving the body by teaching and preachin

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @LostLittleStars @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii My goodness. Paul never tells the elders that they are to judge who can take communion. The only exception would be if someone is kicked out of...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @LostLittleStars @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii My goodness. Paul never tells the elders that they are to judge who can take communion. The o

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-29

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @LostLittleStars @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii You are making an assumption. How do you know I was bringing a public allegation against an elder?? I was addressing a refusal of many to partic...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @LostLittleStars @CherylSchatz @JollyStine @pastherandie @peace_got @MikeWingerii You are making an assumption. How do you know I was bringing a public allegation against an eld

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron, that’s not the option the text gives for the married women (given your view that these are the words of Paul). Why can the single women ask the elders but the married ones have to go home and ask their husbands? ...

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron, that’s not the option the text gives for the married women (given your view that these are the words of Paul). Why can the single women ask the elders but the mar

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals There is a responsibility for the elders, but it is oversight, not control. Raising up those who are able to correctly discern is the desired outcome, not being the one doing everything as a ...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals There is a responsibility for the elders, but it is oversight, not control. Raising up those who are able to correctly discern is the desired

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals The Bereans weren't j

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals The Bereans weren't just the elders, but a characterization of the kind of people they were⎯they tested prophecy which was encouraged by Paul

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals There is an authority to serve the body by teaching, but it is not a hierarchy of authority over the body, but an authority of service. The elders are at the bottom⎯serving and pouring out th...

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals There is an authority to serve the body by teaching, but it is not a hierarchy of authority over the body, but an authority of service. The e

Matt 18:15-20 debate
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, teaching and cor

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Yes, teaching and correcting false doctrine is an important function of the elders. But testing and discerning are meant for all believers, n

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Weighing prophecy is

@ronhenzel @pastherandie @ymmotrojam @kriesese @smashbaals Weighing prophecy is not a function solely for the elders. https://t.co/jXLr47xY5c

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But you have to use the language of v35, and that says "if they (the women) desire to learn ANYTHING, let them ask their husbands at home" That is, in your view... ❌Paul doesn't tell them to...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals But you have to use the language of v35, and that says "if they (the women) desire to learn ANYTHING, let them ask their husbands at home" T

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals BTW Ron, isn't this interesting... the text says "If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home" (1Co 14:35). So they cannot ask an elder in church as it says "at home." They are also to a...

@ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals BTW Ron, isn't this interesting... the text says "If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home" (1Co 14:35). So they cannot ask an elder

1Co 14:35 general
Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-28

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, you said that women could ask questions in small groups when the whole church is not gathered... but v35 says "if they want to learn" they are supposed to ask their husbands at home, no...

@ymmotrojam @pastherandie @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Also, you said that women could ask questions in small groups when the whole church is not gathered... but v35 says "if they want to learn" t

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-27

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron says that they could ask the elders—then why is that not what Paul says? Why are only the women guided to ask the elders and not everyone? Tom, you say that Paul just wants to say that the questions s...

@ymmotrojam @ronhenzel @kriesese @smashbaals Ron says that they could ask the elders—then why is that not what Paul says? Why are only the women guided to ask the elders and not everyone? Tom, you sa

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus couldn’t be an elder in His own church! The require...

@StevenMKestner In order to forbid something, scripture has to be unequivocal. Taken literally, the requirement is married with more than one child. Even Paul and Timothy don’t meet this…even Jesus co

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Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-03-20

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1,5 (elect lady) and vs 13 (chosen sister)? Also, w...

@GlennDavies @SwordMasterPub So you demonstrated that there are males who appear to be elders like Titus, Timothy and James, but we don’t have a letter written to or about a woman? What about 2John 1

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