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@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith in love and in per...

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified,

Titus 2:3 1 Tim 3:11 question

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-02-07

@MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Call it what you want, I'm si

@MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Call it what you want, I'm simply saying this passage is not unique to women because Paul's admonitions are related to things we should all be encour

@JollyStine @MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Yes...and notice how Paul says in Titus 2:3, "Older women likewise..."⎯did Paul mean that only older men are to be temperate, dignified, self-controlled, sound in faith in love and in per...

@MegaChurchMouse @CatherineMcNiel @William_E_Wolfe Call it what you want, I'm si

@ErikWriter @William_E_Wolfe No, because Paul was an elder and he wasn't a husband. So it could idiomatically mean "faithful if married" but it cannot mean husband (and therefore cannot mean male). We have no statement "must not be a woman" nor do we...

@TheMuppetPastor If you think it’s restricted because of 1 Tim 3:1-13… https://t

@lorifrank1 Here’s how I reason through 1 Tim 3👇 https://t.co/EBzpnqJmk0

@lorifrank1 Interesting rationale. However, this whole debate is clearly not bas

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@TheMuppetPastor @herreisenheim00 Where do you get the idea of “having church au

@TheMuppetPastor When a woman shepherds people under her influence this is a pas

@2024usapatriot @William_E_Wolfe Yes, we both believe what Paul wrote is inspire

@Richard89885354 Yes, I know that there are qualified women which is clear because they meet the character qualities Paul noted and it is evident by the gifting the Holy Spirit has given them. I have thoroughly studied the scriptures on this, so I’m ...

@Richard89885354 Not all are overseers. If God gifts a woman and puts it on the

@roarofthefour @William_E_Wolfe Yes, Peter is writing that to the elders…which c

@terryne02461221 You didn’t say differently but what you think the Bible teaches seems to come more from the Watchtower and not the Bible itself. ➡️ **Jesus raised Himself**: John 2:19-22, where Jesus said, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I ...

@CatherineMcNiel @MegaChurchMouse @William_E_Wolfe Titus 2:3-5 primarily addresses older women, instructing them to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love t...

@jhillky2 @Melinda99936029 @William_E_Wolfe They even get that wrong about Deborah as Barak is listed in Hebrews 11:32-33 which says, "And what more shall I say? For time would fail me to tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel, and th...

@Richard89885354 @William_E_Wolfe Teach with authority? I have heard this from several pastors and I have no idea where they are getting this from. Authority to do what? Make new doctrine? Surely not. It’s the word itself that has the authority, so s...

@Richard89885354 @William_E_Wolfe There is no reason in 1 Tim 3:1-13 and Titus 1

@will_servant @William_E_Wolfe Yes, Jesus calls Peter to shepherd! Bravo! So here's the summary: 1⃣Poimen (shepherd/pastor): Peter, (Jesus) - Indirectly, all elders are to pastor 2⃣Presbyter (elder): Peter, John (self acclaimed) 3⃣Episkope (overseer...

@JamesPelton18 @William_E_Wolfe Yes, he did. But my point is that we don't have anyone specifically called a pastor. We can infer elder = overseer = shepherd = pastor, but when attempting to decide whether a woman is allowed to occupy this role, we...

@JamesPelton18 @William_E_Wolfe This is an admonition to overseers (episkopous,

@JamesPelton18 @William_E_Wolfe This is a great passage. 1 Pet 5:1 says "I urge elders (presbyterous, Πρεσβυτέρους) among you, as your fellow elder (sympresbyteros, συμπρεσβύτερος)..." 1. Peter identifies elders (presbyters) as shepherds. 2. Peter ...

@Crop_Ins_Guy @pastherandie @William_E_Wolfe Or perhaps just as the Judiazers cr

@imanii4u I’ve served as an elder and have spoken on several occasions, but don’

I’m still waiting for someone to show me where someone is specifically called a pastor or shepherd (ποιμήν, poimēn) in the New Testament. The only one specifically called this is Jesus Himself. How meaningful is it to say no woman was? @William_E_...

@pastherandie Interesting…thanks for providing this reference! I’ll have to add it to my list. BTW, the title does a good job showing that women are working together with men, which is what I think egalitarian implies. Most people nowadays use femi...

@paulsfam4 You didn’t read the thread, did you? Just giving me the usual comp arguments, right? Paul’s grammar in 1 Tim 2:11-12 changes from all people, all men, all women, to a woman and a man. Then he uses “the woman” in v14 to clarify that “a w...

@graceforprize @3HillsMinor @Rattle_Resists @Kdubtru @michael_ronning Trying to

@pauldirks @SpeechWrx @NancyRPearcey I see. Maybe if men weren’t so hard headed (apparently by modern neuroscience, etc), I could actually get them to interact with my analysis on the passages on women. Scripture is what we have to at foundation go ...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote I’m not wresting against the text. It is fully inspired in every detail and should be taken as the author intended it. If Peter says that some things Paul writes are “hard to understand” as Paul’s contemporary, then you ...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote Junia was praised among the apostles, Priscilla led her house church together with her husband and they both went on missionary journeys with Paul. Phoebe was a deacon whom Paul commended to the believers at Rome because s...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote Paul was quoting many times from the letter from the Corinthians (see 1 Cor 7:1). You have to consider this possibility since what he seems to be saying in 1 Cor 14:34-35 contradicts what he says in the rest of the chapter...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote No, but the translators thought that males were only supposed to be overseers, so they used English that seems confusing. Once you realize the Greek doesn’t have male pronouns in 1 Tim 3:1-13 or Titus 1:5-9, then you start...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote 1 Tim 3:11 “Women likewise…” then gives the same “restriction” of “must be one wife husband” and then in Rom 16 talks about female leaders and Phoebe who is clearly a deacon. Paul doesn’t use gendered pronouns, but things...

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote Wrestling with the text which on first reading appea

@Richard89885354 @MarkGrote This is so strange. I literally stick to the text showing from Paul’s letter to Timothy what Paul says his intentions are, I take the grammar and syntax and references seriously. I don’t ignore anything. I don’t know who ...

@BornAgainMissy @ryancduff @MarkGrote BTW, you do know that a shepherd is the same as a pastor in the New Testament, right? You may not be in any official position, but when comps allow women to function as pastors without having official titles, th...

@BornAgainMissy @ryancduff @MarkGrote If you are lumping egalitarians with gays and the slippery slope into apostasy, I understand that perspective. Many in the egal crowd have had a habit of using common sense and other passages showing women have b...

@BornAgainMissy @ryancduff @MarkGrote I hear that. Many who have grown up in comp churches don’t feel right about female pastors and teachers. But we do have to submit our “heart” to scripture, though if you are not comfortable, you should go with wh...

@ErweeKoos @ronhenzel Paul wasn’t the fool of Psalm 14; he was ignorant and serving God fervently with zeal in the way that he thought was right. In 1 Tim 1:12-13, Paul states, "I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he consi...

@ErweeKoos @ronhenzel No, it's not poetry and exaggeration. You have to read Pau

@ronhenzel @ErweeKoos In Rom 3:10-18, Paul is quoting from Psalm 14 and it is clear from this passage, that there are two groups: "The fool" (red) and "a righteous generation" (blue) So the statement "not even one" should say "not even one of the fo...

@JacobPaul432 @Soteriology101 Some like John Gill think it is slanderous to sugg

@terryne02461221 @Vestwitt @HwsEleutheroi There is nothing in scripture indicating the angels "discarded the body." Lazarus is proof that a body 4 days dead can be raised using the same body. "Jesus, once more deeply moved, came to the tomb. It wa...

@jtearthkeeper You want prayer that you don't get confused into thinking the Bib

@terryne02461221 Reading would require correctly discerning, but yes. “All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be fully capable, equ...

@JTrivoltin2 If you want commentary about the Greek Text used for the KJV, Erasm

@taxman1972 @reachjulieroys @AlistairBegg @AFRnet @parksidechurch We are not to judge those who don’t claim to be followers of Jesus, but that doesn’t mean we should witness a gay wedding. That said, for those who claim to follow Christ, we are calle...

@reachjulieroys @AlistairBegg @AFRnet @parksidechurch I think Alistair should reconsider this advice he gave to the grandmother, not because of all the good and right things he said, but because attending an unbiblical ceremony shows support to all p...

RT @TheMuppetPastor: @megbasham Here is my takeaway from Begg’s comments. I thi

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@terryne02461221 You didn’t say differently but what you think the Bible teaches seems to come more from the Watchtower and not the Bible itself. ➡️ Jesus raised Himself: John 2:19-22, where Jesus said, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I ...