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Titus 1:5-9 1Ti 3:1-13 debate

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale Yes, and I spent time explaining "one wife husband" and how it is an idiom. Gary, I don't know where you were trained or what Greek you took, but the "he"'s in the entirety of 1Ti 3:1-13 and Titus 1:5-9 ar...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale Yes, and I spent time explaining "one wife husband" and how it is an idiom. Gary, I don't know where you were trained or what Greek you took, but the "he"'

@Vincent98V @slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale I think I’ll let God dec

@Vincent98V @slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale I think I’ll let God decide if he is going to kick me out of heaven because I shared the leadership of the family together with my wife. BTW, al

@ToFertileChurch @Flyoverland22 That’s a helpful reference, thanks!

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY teach younger wives? The point about them working at...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale In Tit 2:3-5, what in particular suggests to you that the older women are not to be teachers of men, pastors or elders? Does Paul say that they must ONLY te

Tit 2:3-5 question

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale Hi Gary. I'm not sure why you highlighted 1Ti 3:1. It uses the pronoun τις (tis) which means anyone or someone, not "any man" (like the NASB translates) or "a man" (as the NKJV translates). As for μιᾶς γυν...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale Hi Gary. I'm not sure why you highlighted 1Ti 3:1. It uses the pronoun τις (tis) which means anyone or someone, not "any man" (like the NASB translates) or

1Ti 3:1 commentary

@ToFertileChurch @Flyoverland22 I haven’t read Foh. What is the reference?

@Vincent98V @slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale I'm sorry, what am I ski

@Vincent98V @slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale I'm sorry, what am I skipping over? Why does my flesh want to give up ruling over my wife?

@MikeWingerii And I wish you would reconsider your call to egalitarians to repen

@MikeWingerii And I wish you would reconsider your call to egalitarians to repent, tolerating those who disagree on secondary matters like you do regarding Calvinism or eschatology. https://t.co/Q6qHK

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale Here’s a chart showing the grammar a

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale Here’s a chart showing the grammar and how to make sense of 1Co 2:15 the capstone of Paul’s comments in this section. https://t.co/Y0IdPyu8TO

1Co 2:15 general

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale He says many people who are able are unqualified. That is right. But to be disqualified because you are too short, too overweight, too old, the wrong nationality, the wrong socioeconomic status, or the not ...

@slow_down_Jess @cjohnsonn0311 @_AndrewHale He says many people who are able are unqualified. That is right. But to be disqualified because you are too short, too overweight, too old, the wrong nation

@cjohnsonn0311 @slow_down_Jess @_AndrewHale Not it isn’t. S3xual sin is clearly

@cjohnsonn0311 @slow_down_Jess @_AndrewHale Not it isn’t. S3xual sin is clearly indicated as sin. Godly women teaching men the truth is nowhere stated to be sin.

Yikes! Gen 3 doesn’t curse the man and woman; it curses the serpent and the ground. The woman’s increased toil in childbirth and her desire for her husband suggest a continued affection and bond to him, not dominance. Adam’s blaming Eve is the reas...

Yikes! Gen 3 doesn’t curse the man and woman; it curses the serpent and the ground. The woman’s increased toil in childbirth and her desire for her husband suggest a continued affection and bond to

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley So this is about how he feels about having a duty taken

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley So this is about how he feels about having a duty taken from him? Like he would feel like a failure rather than grateful for the outcome simply because his wife acted without

1Co 11:1-16 1Co 14:34-35 1Ti 2:11-15 debate

@Flyoverland22 1Co 14:34-35, 1Co 11:1-16, 1Ti 2:11-15,3:1-13, etc all have reasonable explanations showing how these are not forbidding women or enforcing gender hierarchy or gender roles in church leadership. This is certainly not an issue where one...

@Flyoverland22 1Co 14:34-35, 1Co 11:1-16, 1Ti 2:11-15,3:1-13, etc all have reasonable explanations showing how these are not forbidding women or enforcing gender hierarchy or gender roles in church le

@Flyoverland22 It would seem that in holding to what they believe the scriptures to teach they are invoking a male domination and blessing it with “its scriptural”—and worse, if you don’t agree you are in rebellion to God and need to repent. This de...

@Flyoverland22 It would seem that in holding to what they believe the scriptures to teach they are invoking a male domination and blessing it with “its scriptural”—and worse, if you don’t agree you ar

@Flyoverland22 Jesus’ reason for choosing 12 Jewish males as his 12 apostles wasn’t communicated. It would be equally bad to presume that no Gentiles should be leaders because the first 12 were only Jewish or to limit to the first 12 when Jesus clear...

@Flyoverland22 Jesus’ reason for choosing 12 Jewish males as his 12 apostles wasn’t communicated. It would be equally bad to presume that no Gentiles should be leaders because the first 12 were only J

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley Most women would rather a man treat them as equals and

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley Most women would rather a man treat them as equals and serve them rather than as masters to be served. If you serve your wife and don’t overrule her when you disagree then we

@Flyoverland22 @bkr8un “Being in authority doesn’t equal tyranny” But aren’t yo

@Flyoverland22 @bkr8un “Being in authority doesn’t equal tyranny” But aren’t you the one casting egalitarians out of the church?

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley How about how the family should be seen and treated day

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley How about how the family should be seen and treated day to day? BTW, if the husband is at work and the wife is at home, is she to wait 30 minutes for her husband to drive home

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley The husband ought to serve his family in the gifting he has, which includes his strength. It is pretty rare that you need to defend your family nowadays, preventing women from protecting their families if their husband is not...

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley The husband ought to serve his family in the gifting he has, which includes his strength. It is pretty rare that you need to defend your family nowadays, preventing women from

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley Whoever is there. If the husband is at work it will pro

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley Whoever is there. If the husband is at work it will probably be the mother whether you want it that way or not.

@Flyoverland22 Not all egalitarians are rebelling against scripture. You would d

@Flyoverland22 Not all egalitarians are rebelling against scripture. You would do well to note this.

@Flyoverland22 Paul only named names for blasphemers, those who were not ignoran

@Flyoverland22 Paul only named names for blasphemers, those who were not ignorant and deceived. Reread 1Ti 1

@Flyoverland22 "I asked egalitarians a few times to blank stares this question: What does obedience or disobedience to this passage look like?" Not allowing someone to teach false doctrine like Timothy was to stop this specific deceived wife in Ephe...

@Flyoverland22 "I asked egalitarians a few times to blank stares this question: What does obedience or disobedience to this passage look like?" Not allowing someone to teach false doctrine like Timot

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies How do you know that Paul is speaking

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies How do you know that Paul is speaking of hierarchy of authority roles?

@Flyoverland22 @pastherandie @paulloewen Can a married man be spirit filled if h

@Flyoverland22 @pastherandie @paulloewen Can a married man be spirit filled if he submits to his wife as his wife submits to him?

@Flyoverland22 @pastherandie @paulloewen Wow, that’s kinda twisted! How are all

@Flyoverland22 @pastherandie @paulloewen Wow, that’s kinda twisted! How are all the singles Paul encouraged to remain single going to be spirit filled?

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies Then maybe you shouldn’t suggest egal

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies Then maybe you shouldn’t suggest egalitarians are sinning.

@Flyoverland22 @pastherandie @paulloewen “Egal position removes spirit filling”?

@Flyoverland22 @pastherandie @paulloewen “Egal position removes spirit filling”? What is that all about?

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies If this was a chain of hierarchy, why

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies If this was a chain of hierarchy, why doesn't Paul start with God and end with the wife? God -> Christ -> Husband -> Wife Instead we see: Christ

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley I have to revoke my statement. I assumed it means authority in this context but after reviewing all the lexicons I have in my library (and I have a lot), kephale is not used in the sense of authority. I am becoming more convi...

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley I have to revoke my statement. I assumed it means authority in this context but after reviewing all the lexicons I have in my library (and I have a lot), kephale is not used i

@wheresurhusband @purple_space78 @Eric_Conn She was carrying the bucket 🤷‍♂️

@wheresurhusband @purple_space78 @Eric_Conn Ok…

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies When I said functional subordination

@Flyoverland22 @ajfworship @sailemptyskies When I said functional subordination I was referring to the idea of the economic trinity. https://t.co/je4x3GXscz

@jin_484 @Oneantifem Those differences are essential to leadership. To discount the way that women lead and refuse to work together with them as leaders means they don’t benefit from men and men don’t benefit from women. You also must not be married...

@jin_484 @Oneantifem Those differences are essential to leadership. To discount the way that women lead and refuse to work together with them as leaders means they don’t benefit from men and men don’t

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@KillmanBuck A mother is not responsible to God for her family? Huh? Does the w

@KillmanBuck A mother is not responsible to God for her family? Huh? Does the wife submit to Christ?

Jn 4:10 Jn 4:14 Jn 4:18 general

@purple_space78 @Eric_Conn That’s strange. Everything Jesus said to her, He said without her husband there: - Jesus requests her for water - Jn 4:7 - Jesus speaks of living water - Jn 4:10 - Jesus offers eternal life - Jn 4:14 - Jesus reveals her pe...

@purple_space78 @Eric_Conn That’s strange. Everything Jesus said to her, He said without her husband there: - Jesus requests her for water - Jn 4:7 - Jesus speaks of living water - Jn 4:10 - Jesus of

@Octopus_Primus @patfussy77 @lyssasphere It would be interesting if modern medic

@Octopus_Primus @patfussy77 @lyssasphere It would be interesting if modern medicine was talked about in the Bible written thousands of years ago. That would be anachronistic. They also didn’t have te

@KillmanBuck Yes, wives are to submit to their husbands in the proper way, as th

@KillmanBuck Yes, wives are to submit to their husbands in the proper way, as they do to the Lord. Husbands are also to submit to their wives as the remainder of Eph 5 doesn’t nullify verse 21: all ar

@KillmanBuck Women don’t have an intermediary to God. Suggesting that wives don’

@KillmanBuck Women don’t have an intermediary to God. Suggesting that wives don’t directly submit to Christ is really bad theology.

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 In the Bible, no one specifically—not even a male⎯is identified as a pastor. Only two are explicitly called an elder and they are self identified—Peter and John. What does it matter what the church did after the NT? Are ...

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 In the Bible, no one specifically—not even a male⎯is identified as a pastor. Only two are explicitly called an elder and they are self identified—Peter and John. What doe

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 @ZacharyGarris @Eric_Conn Not if you are egalitarian

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 @ZacharyGarris @Eric_Conn Not if you are egalitarian because of scripture instead of by ignoring it. https://t.co/a36YWtiaIj

@Eric_Conn But the oldest position is that of Jesus and the apostles—mutual subm

@Eric_Conn But the oldest position is that of Jesus and the apostles—mutual submission and equal opportunity for both men and women to serve in any leadership roles or as teachers and preachers.

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 @ZacharyGarris @Eric_Conn It’s not that you are correct that the one who is both more capable and available and able should protect when the thieves arrive that one or two times in your life. But it doesn’t mean that shod ...

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 @ZacharyGarris @Eric_Conn It’s not that you are correct that the one who is both more capable and available and able should protect when the thieves arrive that one or two

For those wondering how the ISV translated this text to mean the opposite of nearly every other translation, I have marked up my NASB as follows: The use of οὐδὲ can introduce a rhetorical negation "Not even nature itself teaches you..." rather than...

For those wondering how the ISV translated this text to mean the opposite of nearly every other translation, I have marked up my NASB as follows: The use of οὐδὲ can introduce a rhetorical negation "

@FlyingMonkey24 @jhrjamharrea @smashbaals I don’t think J R looked at the Greek.

@FlyingMonkey24 @jhrjamharrea @smashbaals I don’t think J R looked at the Greek. He’s just in a tiffy because I think I might be right and that the other translations might be wrong. You think he’d j

@KillmanBuck That’s a strange question. Normally I would ask whether the complem

@KillmanBuck That’s a strange question. Normally I would ask whether the complementarian thinks he is like God and his wife is like the human in the relationship, subservient to do all that the husban

@dudespankydave @William_E_Wolfe I don’t think he asked for permission. Just nee

@dudespankydave @William_E_Wolfe I don’t think he asked for permission. Just need to correct his false teaching.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley It doesn’t say authority “over” the church but authorit

@DST_QA @Robert_S_Morley It doesn’t say authority “over” the church but authority over all *for* the church. His authority overall creation is for the benefit of the church, not to command his bride.

Scripture Commentary tweet 2024-06-15

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 @ZacharyGarris @Eric_Conn I am unable to find anywhere where Conn explicitly says it is wrong for a mother to take authority over her adult male children, but he might be avoiding it because it follows from his beliefs. Ma...

@JamesGaius @Whatsinaname41 @ZacharyGarris @Eric_Conn I am unable to find anywhere where Conn explicitly says it is wrong for a mother to take authority over her adult male children, but he might be a