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View 2: Women saved spiritually in spite of the pain of childbirth

ALL The Debates Over 1 Tim 2_11-15: Women in Ministry part 12 (it took me a year to make this) 10:05:00 – 10:10:00

Mike evaluates the view that women are saved despite the curse of painful childbearing from Genesis 3.

This view takes dia as 'through' in the sense of 'in spite of' or 'notwithstanding,' reading: 'She will be saved even though she must endure the pain of childbearing (as part of the Genesis 3 curse).' Mike finds this unsatisfying: (1) While dia can occasionally carry this nuance, it is a strained reading; (2) The connection to 'if they continue in faith' does not fit well — why would continuing in faith be the condition for being saved despite childbirth pain?; (3) It makes the statement trivial — saying 'women can still be saved even though childbirth is painful' adds nothing meaningful to the argument; (4) Paul's theology never elsewhere connects salvation to enduring physical curses.

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