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Ramsey's strongest counter-examples: Hagar naming God in Genesis 16:13 and Isaac naming wells he abandons in Genesis 26:17-21.

Was Women's Submission Just a Curse to Be Overturned？ Women in Ministry part 2 01:22:21 – 01:24:24

Counter-examples to naming = authority

Ramsey cites Hagar naming God ('El Roi' in Gen 16:13) -- she can't have authority over God. Mike responds: God already had a name; Hagar assigned a relational nickname, which is different from naming. Ramsey also cites Isaac naming wells he then abandons (Gen 26:17-21). Mike responds: Isaac's naming seems like an act of claiming rightful ownership ('I dug these, they're mine') even as he's forced to walk away.
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Was Women's Submission Just a Curse to Be Overturned？ Women in Ministry part 2 @ 01:22:21

2022-03-14

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