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Winger raises the case of Eve being genuinely deceived in the garden as a counter-example to the claim that everyone always fully knows the truth they suppress

Does Presup Apologetics Have a Biblical Foundation? Mike Winger vs Sye Ten Bruggencate 00:42:57 – 00:44:57

Winger's argument from Genesis 3 against the presup claim about universal conscious knowledge

Winger argues that the Genesis 3 text explicitly says Eve was deceived — she genuinely came to believe Satan's lie that God's word was wrong. This challenges the idea that suppressors always know they are suppressing. Sye responds that Eve's deception was like all human suppression: she saw the fruit, coveted becoming like God, and suppressed the truth she had. He compares this to unbelievers who suppress God's truth to make themselves lords of their own reasoning.

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