Mark

” To have a person remain as an unregenerate person and without faith and without being a child of God and call them “born again” is completely foreign to Christian terminology. Calvinism has taken classical Christian terms and re-written their meaning. I find that incredibly sad.”

WHen did i ever say that Cheryl? I have never said a person can be born again and stay without faith. Being born again is part of the process of coming to faith is what i have said. Anybody who is born again WILL ALWAYS immediately follow it by faith. IF you like it is part of the ‘calling’. drawing process. A person will never accept the message until the veil is removed by the Spirit. Your attack on clavinism here again clearly shows me once more that you are not engaging wiht the actual teaching but your ‘view’ of the teaching. You need to be more careful to show me that you actually understand the ‘calvinistic’ position. Thus far it is clear you do not.