Kristen
2011-04-12
Jeremy, you said:
“First, creation order is used as an analogy, not a reason, in 2 Cor 11:3.”
Then how can you be sure it is a reason, and not an analogy, in 1 Tim 2:13?
You said:
“Second, in 1 Cor 11, the form is possibly not applicable today of head coverings, but the principle of submission to one’s husband still is. The problem in Corinth was not so much with the covering, but with the attitude.”
Then how can you be sure the problem in 1 Timothy was not so much with the teaching, as with the attitude with which they were teaching? (Not one positive use of the word “authentein” can be found in any usage of this word during the time this book was written. “Exercise authority” was not the way this word was used until around 400 AD.)
You said:
“‘Gar’ is used plenty of times for ‘because’. Even in the favorite verse of egalitarians, Galatians 3:28, it is used this way. I can give you plenty of examples if you need.”
I can also give you plenty of examples where it means “for example” — and therefore, the use of the word “gar” does not necessarily mean that Paul was grounding his prohibition in the Creation narrative in order to render it timeless and universal. That is the issue we were addressing. You seemed to believe it was a slam-dunk.
You said:
“All these words leads one to believe that the word authority here is simply that.”
All my research into this matter indicates the exact opposite, as I have described above.
To be continued.
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