Mark

Dave,

No worries mate, but just do a quick search on the net at conditional clauses and you will soon discover that the ‘basic greek grammars’ do not have the space or the ability to cover extensively every area including word order etc and what happens if the apodosis preceeds the prostasis.

So no, i am not making up definitions and perhaps you should do some more research on these things before being persistent in your opinion…that way you can pursue more fully the truth which you claim i’m not interested in. Just one example, show me one example in all of Koine Greek, where ‘head’ is used BETWEEN PEOPLE and it means ‘source’. Facts like these decide who is seeking the truth. Have a look here for example and see what unfolds http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/kephale.pdf

But i sympathise with you in these debates…truly! But it appears you have trouble with people disagreeing with you. I never made up definitions nor have i now, i used BDAG and the Oxford in our former debate…you just don’t like what they have to say.

Anyways may God bless your faithfulness at Ryde Pressie even though we as sinful men cannot agree on these issues.