Cheryl

JayneK,
Welcome!

“In the first case, you are making assumptions about their motives.”

Thanks for your comments. No I wasn’t questioning their motives, I said that I was shocked because they treated her poorly and had no answer to her Greek explanation. God only knows what their motive is for that. Regardless of the motive, they came across as harsh to someone who should have been treated as a sister in Christ.

“In the second, you are misrepresenting what they said, as Suzanne herself has told you. This makes a poor impression on me. (Although it does leave me favorably impressed with Suzanne.)”

I disagree with Suzanne because I did not see them tell men who disagreed that they were to be quiet. They believe that women are to be quiet in the church and as elders in the church, they silence women who disagree with them. I certainly could be wrong and they may show disrespect to men too, but I haven’t seen it. I do believe that Suzanne has been extremely respectful to the Bayly brothers and has shown a Christ-like attitude to them.

“Perhaps you meant well by setting up a public forum for discussion with Kamilla, but it was not respectful to make such a decision without consulting her.”

Why was this not respectful? Kamilla has been publicly sent to reprimand me by the Bayly brothers. If I want to have this reprimand done in public, then this should be my decision. If she was going to do it publicly without asking me first, then that would be disrespectful, however since I am the one to be corrected, I choose to have it done publicly. Since I have asked anyone who would be commenting to do it in a respectful manner and since I am the one who can edit out or block anyone from being disrespectful this is a safe environment for her – much safer than the Bayly blog is for egalitarians. This blog was set up as a place to have respectful dialog and I think that has been successfully done.

The whole issue regarding the secondary issue of women in ministry is whether we have a right to separate from our brothers and sisters in Christ over disagreement over secondary doctrines. I do not believe that we have that right since Christ told us that we are to love one another.

The issue of the Trinity is not a secondary issue and it does lend itself to a strong defense of the faith so that Jesus is given his proper place of honor and respect as an equal member of the Trinity in his will and his work. This will be a big part of the Trinity DVD that we are working on. The Trinity has come under attack in many ways and we cannot stand by and let it happen.

I hope that helps!
Cheryl