CBMW quote:”They will see in the example of Christ, as never before, the beauty and glory that inheres in gracious, selfless submission. With both man and woman thus perfected and transformed, are we to suppose that the new creation will abandon the order established in God’s original creation? I think not. Rather, such relations will bring to each true joy, and to God, more glory than before.”

Here we go again with creation order. Start with a wrong premise and end with heresy.

1. They started with this focus on women, their subordination and roles. That is being refuted with scripture. So they…

2. Use the same teaching on creation order to teach a hierarchy and chain of command in the Trinity resulting in a ‘lesser’ Jesus even though they claim Jesus is God they contradict that with what they teach about Jesus.

3. Now they are suggesting that creation order means that there is subordination of women in heaven…which means that we will have a layer between us and God in heaven, too! I guess the women will be hanging out with the subordinate Jesus?

1 is a difference of interpretations

2 and #3 is heresy

The progression is clear. And for ONE reason: Earthly power and authority over others in the Body. Exactly what Jesus taught against for the Body.

I listened to the DVD last night as it came in the mail! Wow, great job. Lorri is excellent (I had not heard her teaching before) and I could have listened to another hour of the attributes of ‘God’ (Godhead). It was so uplifting and I was praising God and worshiping Him as I listened.

I cannot thank you guys enough for making this DVD that is so clear and simple to follow…and backed up with nothing but the Word. Unlike those teaching these false doctrines who sound like they are discussing the minutia of how many angels can dance on a pinhead with lots of big seminary words. One would think that the Lord could not teach the average Joe through His Word listening to these guys.

I was also a bit surprised to see that Ware is using 1 Corin 11 as his foundation for the eternal subordination of Jesus Christ. Once again, we see Kephale being interpreted as meaning ‘ruler and authority’ when it does not mean that at all. Starting with presuppositions that are not true and ending up with Jesus as eternally subordinated.

I have found I can trust little that comes from SBTS anymore. They seem to have an agenda and it is not about elevating our Savior.